Quote from Bob Lutz In Autoweek
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Originally posted by guionM
Actually, there is such a thing.
As everyone here who has personally spoken with anyone in GM will tell you, GM can give no indication they are working on a replacement for the Camaro or Firebird, and are refraining from using the name on anything, including concept cars despite the fact that GM does own the name.
The "gag order" covers not just the future of the name (at the moment) but it also covers any public discussion as to why the 4th gen was discontinued outside of the official line of 'low sales".
They are permitted to say the name (notice, they always refer to the "name") will eventually come back, but no one is saying they are working on a new "Camaro". Anyone who asks about a new Camaro will get that "eventually" line.
If anyone has told you how it's not going to happen, I really, really doubt they actually work for GM.
No, I'm not making this up. Yes, I am being real.
Actually, there is such a thing.
As everyone here who has personally spoken with anyone in GM will tell you, GM can give no indication they are working on a replacement for the Camaro or Firebird, and are refraining from using the name on anything, including concept cars despite the fact that GM does own the name.
The "gag order" covers not just the future of the name (at the moment) but it also covers any public discussion as to why the 4th gen was discontinued outside of the official line of 'low sales".
They are permitted to say the name (notice, they always refer to the "name") will eventually come back, but no one is saying they are working on a new "Camaro". Anyone who asks about a new Camaro will get that "eventually" line.
If anyone has told you how it's not going to happen, I really, really doubt they actually work for GM.
No, I'm not making this up. Yes, I am being real.
I really believe we will only know when GM releases official information about it. Don't expect somebody to come on this board (certain celestial objects we know, for example), especially in a high position, and leak the official word on the Camaro, or any other future product.
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Originally posted by guionM
Actually, there is such a thing.
As everyone here who has personally spoken with anyone in GM will tell you, GM can give no indication they are working on a replacement for the Camaro or Firebird, and are refraining from using the name on anything, including concept cars despite the fact that GM does own the name.
The "gag order" covers not just the future of the name (at the moment) but it also covers any public discussion as to why the 4th gen was discontinued outside of the official line of 'low sales".
They are permitted to say the name (notice, they always refer to the "name") will eventually come back, but no one is saying they are working on a new "Camaro". Anyone who asks about a new Camaro will get that "eventually" line.
If anyone has told you how it's not going to happen, I really, really doubt they actually work for GM.
No, I'm not making this up. Yes, I am being real.
Actually, there is such a thing.
As everyone here who has personally spoken with anyone in GM will tell you, GM can give no indication they are working on a replacement for the Camaro or Firebird, and are refraining from using the name on anything, including concept cars despite the fact that GM does own the name.
The "gag order" covers not just the future of the name (at the moment) but it also covers any public discussion as to why the 4th gen was discontinued outside of the official line of 'low sales".
They are permitted to say the name (notice, they always refer to the "name") will eventually come back, but no one is saying they are working on a new "Camaro". Anyone who asks about a new Camaro will get that "eventually" line.
If anyone has told you how it's not going to happen, I really, really doubt they actually work for GM.
No, I'm not making this up. Yes, I am being real.
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Hotrodtodd, no lawsuit, just a bad contract, with things GM never expected to deal with.
Cmc, let me point out that there has been an announcement on Solstice, comfirmation of a new GTO before the current one is on the streets, confirmation of the new Cadillac STS, known plans of a Impala redo in 2006, comfirmation of a new Corvette including the fact that it's basically a XLR under the skin, confirmation that Cadillac will produce a RWD large car, possibly to replace DTS.
We know a new Regal is comming, we know a series of RWD sedans are comming, starting in 2006, we know the production startup plans of the Cavalier replacement, we know the Grand Am lineup, including a version with a retractible steel roof, we know there is a new series of V8s comming, and that's just off the top of my head.
All are either from press releases, or from GM executives own mouth themselves.
As you can see, Camaro is missing from this and it's the result from a what amouts to a gag order (actually a letter sent around GM).
If I'm not mistaken, there has been more than a couple of GM people who have actually came out and said this.
Trust me, it's no myth.
Or, you can inquire to certain people yourself.
Cmc, let me point out that there has been an announcement on Solstice, comfirmation of a new GTO before the current one is on the streets, confirmation of the new Cadillac STS, known plans of a Impala redo in 2006, comfirmation of a new Corvette including the fact that it's basically a XLR under the skin, confirmation that Cadillac will produce a RWD large car, possibly to replace DTS.
We know a new Regal is comming, we know a series of RWD sedans are comming, starting in 2006, we know the production startup plans of the Cavalier replacement, we know the Grand Am lineup, including a version with a retractible steel roof, we know there is a new series of V8s comming, and that's just off the top of my head.
All are either from press releases, or from GM executives own mouth themselves.
As you can see, Camaro is missing from this and it's the result from a what amouts to a gag order (actually a letter sent around GM).
If I'm not mistaken, there has been more than a couple of GM people who have actually came out and said this.
Trust me, it's no myth.
Or, you can inquire to certain people yourself.
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Originally posted by guionM
As you can see, Camaro is missing from this and it's the result from a what amouts to a gag order (actually a letter sent around GM).
If I'm not mistaken, there has been more than a couple of GM people who have actually came out and said this.
Trust me, it's no myth.
Or, you can inquire to certain people yourself.
As you can see, Camaro is missing from this and it's the result from a what amouts to a gag order (actually a letter sent around GM).
If I'm not mistaken, there has been more than a couple of GM people who have actually came out and said this.
Trust me, it's no myth.
Or, you can inquire to certain people yourself.
I remember reading all the posts about the Camaro, and when I first heard of this gag order it was from you guionM and you didn't say from where!!!
Are you sure you're not spreading dis-information for GM when it comes to the Camaro?
I don't think there is a gag order because nothing is being done.
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