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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 01:04 PM
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You must know more than all of the GM insiders and the Assistant Brand Manager of the Camaro then. *Doh*
Old Mar 23, 2003 | 01:10 PM
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Question So........

......since people who obviously are either in the know or actually work for GM say that the SS concept definately is NOT a 5th gen Camaro..........and take into account that there is nothing about this concept that looks like a Camaro......also realizing that GM is promoting it's SS sub-brand........please tell us, with all of your 3 posts (so far)......what real information do you believe you have to make such a definative statement??

GM has much bigger problems at the moment than coming out with a concept that is so far removed from a Camaro as to be laughable.......it is what it is......a compilation of things SS built to promote the SS sub-brand and nothing more.........
Old Mar 23, 2003 | 03:06 PM
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Exactly.
Old Mar 23, 2003 | 03:48 PM
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Thank god. The SS looks retarded. Not so much *** the SSR. Now thats gay lookin.
I think this guy drives a SSR click me
Old Mar 23, 2003 | 06:02 PM
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The SS would make a sweet Camaro, just get rid of 2 doors and shorten it a bit. add 4th gen tail lights and this would make the perfect 5th gen
Old Mar 23, 2003 | 08:05 PM
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Re: So........

Originally posted by Doug Harden
......since people who obviously are either in the know or actually work for GM say that the SS concept definately is NOT a 5th gen Camaro..........and take into account that there is nothing about this concept that looks like a Camaro......also realizing that GM is promoting it's SS sub-brand........please tell us, with all of your 3 posts (so far)......what real information do you believe you have to make such a definative statement??

GM has much bigger problems at the moment than coming out with a concept that is so far removed from a Camaro as to be laughable.......it is what it is......a compilation of things SS built to promote the SS sub-brand and nothing more.........

Some of what you say is true. Particularly about the 3 posts. The SS is a concept, not a real car. This is not "the" Camaro. It is a prototype being thrown out there to see what the reaction is. The reaction is good so far. But the car will never sell as a four-door. It will be a two door. It is designed to have nuances of the second gen. Camaro, which was the most popular F-body of all.

It will reappear, likely in late '06-'07 as a Camaro SS, though it will not look exactly like the SS concept. The SS shows where Camaro is going, it is Lutz influenced, that's why is has a lot in common with his Dodge Challenger concept that never made it to production at Chrysler. The SS is where the Camaro is going. The two-door will likely be at Detroit next year.

You see, I have a crystal ball that tells me everything.
Old Mar 23, 2003 | 08:20 PM
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Re: Re: So........

Originally posted by Dwarf Killer
Some of what you say is true. Particularly about the 3 posts. The SS is a concept, not a real car. This is not "the" Camaro. It is a prototype being thrown out there to see what the reaction is. The reaction is good so far. But the car will never sell as a four-door. It will be a two door. It is designed to have nuances of the second gen. Camaro, which was the most popular F-body of all.

It will reappear, likely in late '06-'07 as a Camaro SS, though it will not look exactly like the SS concept. The SS shows where Camaro is going, it is Lutz influenced, that's why is has a lot in common with his Dodge Challenger concept that never made it to production at Chrysler. The SS is where the Camaro is going. The two-door will likely be at Detroit next year.

You see, I have a crystal ball that tells me everything.
I really hope so!
Old Mar 23, 2003 | 10:47 PM
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LOL this is hilarious, I hope Guion or RP read this BS!! And 2nd Gens are not that popular.

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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 11:55 PM
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Re: Re: So........

Originally posted by Dwarf Killer
Some of what you say is true. Particularly about the 3 posts. The SS is a concept, not a real car. This is not "the" Camaro. It is a prototype being thrown out there to see what the reaction is. The reaction is good so far. But the car will never sell as a four-door. It will be a two door. It is designed to have nuances of the second gen. Camaro, which was the most popular F-body of all.

It will reappear, likely in late '06-'07 as a Camaro SS, though it will not look exactly like the SS concept. The SS shows where Camaro is going, it is Lutz influenced, that's why is has a lot in common with his Dodge Challenger concept that never made it to production at Chrysler. The SS is where the Camaro is going. The two-door will likely be at Detroit next year.

You see, I have a crystal ball that tells me everything.
I come back from spring break and find this....

I'm not trying to flame you at all. Your new here so I'll be nice and give you the benefit of the doubt. But if you want anyone here to believe you, your going to have to back this info up. Where are you getting it? Anyone can pick up an auto magazine and read whatever the author's opinion however, there are people on this board who really have an inside in the industry and have proved it to us. You’ve come to this site with no backing and said some things that go completely against what the insiders here have been telling us for months. I'm just saying give us a reason to believe you.
And BTW if this is someone from the board trolling, stop. Don’t troll on this thread.
Old Mar 24, 2003 | 08:45 AM
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Speaking of subjects taking on a life of their own!

I honestly don't know what GM's actual plans are for the SS, but it most certainly ISN'T the next Camaro! That much I'm as sure as I can be about these types of things.

That leaves the SS as:
A. A styling exercise that shows the direction of the C6
B. A styling exercise that shows the next direction of the Impala.
C. A styling exercise that shows the next direction of the Monte Carlo.
D. A throwaway styling exercise (most concepts don't reach production).
Old Mar 24, 2003 | 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by guionM


That leaves the SS as:
A. A styling exercise that shows the direction of the C6
B. A styling exercise that shows the next direction of the Impala.
C. A styling exercise that shows the next direction of the Monte Carlo.
D. A throwaway styling exercise (most concepts don't reach production).
I'd throw in :

E. A styling exercise that shows the potential directiono f a resurrected Chevlle nameplate....

But I think a lot of that depends on the Monte Carlo nameplate... so it kind of blends in with your option C.
Old Mar 24, 2003 | 09:00 AM
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Originally posted by Darth Xed
I'd throw in :

E. A styling exercise that shows the potential directiono f a resurrected Chevlle nameplate....

But I think a lot of that depends on the Monte Carlo nameplate... so it kind of blends in with your option C.
From what I have been told the talk of a Chevelle is alot of smoke with no fire...GM has alot more to fix before they make a new one. Plus you then have an issue with there being three coupe names (Monte Carlo, Chevelle, and Camaro) that all have a deep heritage and good arguments for thier case, yet only one or two slots for a mid-sized coupe Chevrolets line up. I would say there is a 85% chance you won't see the car in the next 5-8 years...but you never know the way things change. Even a Camaro is not looking great at this point.

Plus an older person pointed out to me that everyone refered to the Chevelle as a Malibu back in the day...meaning it was alot rarer to hear the car called Chevelle...

Is that true? I am too young to know.
Old Mar 24, 2003 | 09:07 AM
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From what I have been told the talk of a Chevelle is alot of smoke with no fire...GM has alot more to fix before they make a new one. Plus you then have an issue with there being three coupe names (Monte Carlo, Chevelle, and Camaro) that all have a deep heritage and good arguments for thier case, yet only one or two slots for a mid-sized coupe Chevrolets line up. I would say there is a 85% chance you won't see the car in the next 5-8 years...but you never know the way things change. Even a Camaro is not looking great at this point.

Plus an older person pointed out to me that everyone refered to the Chevelle as a Malibu back in the day...meaning it was alot rarer to hear the car called Chevelle...

Is that true? I am too young to know.
I would agree with all of that...

But I think Camaro does have a very defined position, and it's a real need at GM...

I was thinking about GM's sporty coupe status, and the lack of one... if you count cars like The Mitsu Eclipse in the affordable sporty coupe market, GM has a glaring hole, and Camaro (and Firebird) are really leaving a gap.
Old Mar 24, 2003 | 09:09 AM
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Chevelle was to Malibu what GTO was to the Le Mans. The Malibu was the base midsized chevy coupe (also a sedan version) and the Chevelle was basically the same car with a lot more eye candy and horsepower.
Old Mar 24, 2003 | 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by formula79
Even a Camaro is not looking great at this point.
You and guionM must get your info from different places. I was under the impression that an eventual Camaro was almost a certainty.



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