Good point... I guess we'd have to make a 2+2 stretch Vette for that. Doh.

 

Ok, or like the Saturn which preceeded it.

To my recollection, the Saturns only had that door on the driver's side. That's why I hesitated to reference it. That, and it was not an especially contemporary or sporty example. I didn't want to draw comparisions to the Ion.

 

GM Take note - I'd buy one! LOL

 

Can I get a HELL NO!!!!

 

A-FRIGGING-MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Camaro = 2 door
GTO = 2 door
Monte Carlo/Chevelle = Quad coupe.

 

It was a joke ppl, don't get your panies in a bunch.

This is what we have our 5th gen for! Although, I wouldn't care if it took some design cues from the vette...

 

What about something in the vein of the SS concept from a couple of years ago?

http://www.motortrendautoshows.com/c...s/chevyss.html

Not the best picture, but one of the few I found in english...

 

I loved that car. They could slap the Camaro name on that and I'd buy it in a heartbeat!

 

That's what I was thinking. I mean, the SS concept looks like a four door to me, but they pulled off the coupe styling. I'd be the guy in line right in front of you if this was coming down the pipe...

 

NO. NO. ABSOLUTELY NO.

GM will be hard-pressed to sell me anything ever again if they commit the monstrous act of making the Camaro into a sedan.

Yes, sedan. Four doors is a sedan. No matter the roofline. No matter how well they're concealed. Might as well make a station wagon version to go with it. Might as well make an SUV Camaro. Don't do it. Don't even think it. Don't float it. It makes you look stupid.

Does the Mustang have 4 doors? NO.

Do you need a sedan Camaro? NO.

 

I'm in favor of a quad-coupe ... probably not for the Camaro as others have indicated. I think it would be fine for Monte Carlo and GTO, both of which have a history of being larger coupes. And, what is the purpose of a larger coupe, more than occasional use of the back seats, a touring coupe.

Alpha Romeo has some nice looking designs with rear hinged doors. They are larger doors than needed for a GTO or Monte Carlo quad, but you can see how they tend to flow with the design better and don't look tacked on. The Olds O4 concept and Opel Insignia (sliding style) looked pretty good as well. Check out Chevy's small 2006 SUV concept too ... the lines look good.

On the Camaro, for the hardtop, occasional back seat access for kids, child seats, etc... could be accomplished by cutting the upper frame of the door further into the roof panel, angling the rear door jam toward the back of the car, and designing seat tracks and steering column function for more forward movement of the seats. Also, incorporate the seat belts into the seat. None of this has to be drastic.

 

GTO or Monte Carlo...I really don't care, they're not what i'm looking for in a sportscar. For those markets, I could see a potential benefit, but IMO it's not worth the styling sacrifice (only the Monte with it's historically square rear qtr windor would be impacted the least).

Camaro....SH*T NO!

IMO, the extra doors will add unessesary cut lines into the body and result in an upright, square rear quarter windows that looks more sedan or Monte Carlo than sportcar.

NO NO NO NO NO!

I don't think you could make these an option either. You'd have to design the chassis specifically for the extra doors, which will mean no B-pillar and thus some extra weight somewhere (I'm guessing) to maintain acceptable stiffness and side impact worthiness. After all that, I can't see in today's tight market place the money being there, especially in the already low volume coupe market, for money to tool 'patch' panels where the doors would be, a temporary B-pillar (which now is not only 'inserted' but latches the door, is torsionally stressed), new rear quarter windows and door latches (maybe), new interior panels for the back seat, crash testing for both variations, etc.

It's a one or the other proposition I think.

 

Four doors does not always make a sedan.
Two doors does not always make a coupe.

 

A Camaro with suicide doors/quad coupe styling..... ummm, NO! For all T-Top lovers out there, if GM did this, we could, in all likelihood kiss those T-Tops goodbye since the structure probably wouldn't have the rigidity (ie. no B-pillar) to support them. Food for thought. Be careful what you wish for....


No to the GTO as well. Leave it alone.

I'm with Darth on the Monte quad coupe thing though - even though Montes were never offered as anything but coupes - it just might work. Besides, GM already bastardized the name by going FWD as far as Monte purists are concerned anyway. So what's a little more polarization?