theres actually barely any body roll in that picture and look how sharp the turn is........ any car would show some roll through a turn like that at speed. Plus is the inside front tire is off the ground a bit that usually means its showing less grip on that side.. .not more

 

Agreed! I don't get BMW's new styling direction at all. There's no unity or flow in the current designs.


-Mike

 

Doesn't it seem that in styling the trends appear to be something like...

BMW -> Pontiac

and...

Pontiac -> BMW

 

Strange, but oddly true.

 

I'm sorry, but I have yet to see ANYTHING-BMW in Pontiac. GTO excepted. I thought it to be a little strange reading reviewers of 2004 Grand Prix praising the car for the lack of body cladding and having a clean design, which supposedly brings it to BMW levels....

 

I think they mean that Pontiac usually has the more aggressive designs and BMW the more conservative. A look at Pontiacs new cars (especially the GTO) show that they are getting more conservative while the BMW's are getting "edgier."

 

Heh, coulda fooled me. I dunno, its not exactly radical, I dont see why people are upset about it.

 

I guess the Firebirds were never on their radar screen.

 

They should've left it alone.

 

I dunno, i'm still trying to figure out what exactly they changed besides a few creases and vents. It seems BMW is only good at making redesigns when they hardly change anything, this is the first one thats been bearable.

 

I'm a little torn on the new 5-series.

I don't think it is the greatest looking car of all time, but I don't think it is bad either... the worst visual cue is the WRX-ish taillamps, IMO.

The previous 5-series, honestly, was pretty boring to me... I actually like the new one better overall.

Maybe I'm way off base here, though, cuz it'd be one of the few things Z28Wilson and I see differently on...