View Poll Results: Which Camaro model is LEAST important to a 5th gen?
Base Camaro
23
38.98%
SS
16
27.12%
Z/28
8
13.56%
They are ALL unimportant.
12
20.34%
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PARALLEL UNIVERSE POLL! Which Camaro model is least important
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Originally posted by redzed
I also like the '00-02 style base/Z28 wheels. Here was a modern alloy wheel with depth and style.
I also like the '00-02 style base/Z28 wheels. Here was a modern alloy wheel with depth and style.
I always thought that they looked like Buick Rendezvous reject wheels.
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Originally posted by Z284ever
You're kidding, right?
I always thought that they looked like Buick Rendezvous reject wheels.
You're kidding, right?
I always thought that they looked like Buick Rendezvous reject wheels.
Would they look good on an old IROC?
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Originally posted by redzed
I would beg to differ. The '98-'02 was a visually clean design, and all of its elements were well integrated and in good taste. The F4 Z28's black roof, like early Acura NSXs, was meant to evoke the canopy of a fighter jet. That's a rare example of positive aviation influenced design - unlike '50s tailfins and "bullet" tail lamps. Similarly, the rear spoiler was a subtle integration, not a tacked-on piece of fiberglass.
I'm similarly positive about the '98+ front clip. Chevrolet used a very subtle central ridge and compound curves to accent the new headlamp design. The headlamps themselves, with silvered reflectors and clear polycarbonate lenses, were also very modern. Overall, the effect was classy. Of course, the SS hoodscoop was icing on the cake, but the rest of the SS visual cues didn't work as well. The "rainbow" spoiler was pointless, and the huge single exhaust outlet was very inappropriate.
I also like the '00-02 style base/Z28 wheels. Here was a modern alloy wheel with depth and style. (The '97-'99 five spoke wheels looked flat and two dimensional. From a distance, they often looked like plactic wheel covers, especially without a chrome finish.)
Throughout the course of the F4, the Camaro was improved with every updating. To me, the '97+ dash is stark and functional, the way any performance car should be. The post 2000 steerwheel was also a welcome relief - who can fault a bigger rim and audio controls. Even the post '97 tail were a nice "European" touch, with nifty amber back-up lights. Finally, I love the black painted exhaust tips. A car is a car, and a motor-cycle is a motor-cycle. Quite frankly, I don't need a shiny tailpipe to remind me where all of the "emissions" come from.
That of course brings me to what the Z28/IROC became from the lowest edd of the late F2s to the end of the F3s. GM speciallized in "over the top" visual effects in this era. Today, the decals, fake loovers and after-though spoilers seem tacky. Even as a kid, I didn't think very much of them - the cars or the visuals.
I would beg to differ. The '98-'02 was a visually clean design, and all of its elements were well integrated and in good taste. The F4 Z28's black roof, like early Acura NSXs, was meant to evoke the canopy of a fighter jet. That's a rare example of positive aviation influenced design - unlike '50s tailfins and "bullet" tail lamps. Similarly, the rear spoiler was a subtle integration, not a tacked-on piece of fiberglass.
I'm similarly positive about the '98+ front clip. Chevrolet used a very subtle central ridge and compound curves to accent the new headlamp design. The headlamps themselves, with silvered reflectors and clear polycarbonate lenses, were also very modern. Overall, the effect was classy. Of course, the SS hoodscoop was icing on the cake, but the rest of the SS visual cues didn't work as well. The "rainbow" spoiler was pointless, and the huge single exhaust outlet was very inappropriate.
I also like the '00-02 style base/Z28 wheels. Here was a modern alloy wheel with depth and style. (The '97-'99 five spoke wheels looked flat and two dimensional. From a distance, they often looked like plactic wheel covers, especially without a chrome finish.)
Throughout the course of the F4, the Camaro was improved with every updating. To me, the '97+ dash is stark and functional, the way any performance car should be. The post 2000 steerwheel was also a welcome relief - who can fault a bigger rim and audio controls. Even the post '97 tail were a nice "European" touch, with nifty amber back-up lights. Finally, I love the black painted exhaust tips. A car is a car, and a motor-cycle is a motor-cycle. Quite frankly, I don't need a shiny tailpipe to remind me where all of the "emissions" come from.
That of course brings me to what the Z28/IROC became from the lowest edd of the late F2s to the end of the F3s. GM speciallized in "over the top" visual effects in this era. Today, the decals, fake loovers and after-though spoilers seem tacky. Even as a kid, I didn't think very much of them - the cars or the visuals.
Wow..... I... um.... agree with redzed...
Well, all except the 00-02 wheels thing. I am not repulsed by them, but they seem out of place to me as well..
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Wow...I actually love the SS "rainbow" spoiler. It matched the lines of the car perfectly. I wasn't a fan of the pancake spoiler.
I found the Z28 wheels to be disgusting. They kind of looked classy??? On a Camaro? Give us some nice tasty deep dish 17's. While we're talking about design elements...Im also a big fan of the fog light placement on 98 & up Camaros. The car looks pretty mean with just the ambers and the fog lights on at night.
-Rich
I found the Z28 wheels to be disgusting. They kind of looked classy??? On a Camaro? Give us some nice tasty deep dish 17's. While we're talking about design elements...Im also a big fan of the fog light placement on 98 & up Camaros. The car looks pretty mean with just the ambers and the fog lights on at night.
-Rich
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Originally posted by INTENSS
I found the Z28 wheels to be disgusting.
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I found the Z28 wheels to be disgusting.
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IMHO, they were the ugliest wheels in my recent memory....on any sporty car. I wonder how many buyers were turned off from buying a Camaro, just because of them?I often wonder what the mechanism at GM was that allowed such wheels on the Z/28? Who signed off on them and why? And how much did they cost to certify? Was it over $1M? Far better and FREE alternatives were already in the parts system. The most basic element, for the look of a sporty car.........completely bungled. What a complete breakdown.
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