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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 03:10 PM
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Originally posted by Silverhawk
Hmmm......


I've been comparing Crispey's drawings to the old Hot Wheels "Muscle Tone" car that came out a while ago. With the exception of the front end and the more Retro rear end curves of Crispey's drawing, I see a great deal of similarity - especially the windsheild and rooflines.

I wonder if the Muscle Tone car actually was a reactionary test bed design for a new Camaro?
Not trying to open the proverbial "can of worms", but to be honest, a new Camaro that is retro styled after the first gen car is going to have a pretty predictable look to it.

Crispy's, Kris Horton's, and a laundry list of other retro concepts all look pretty much the same... at least in overall theme.
Old Jul 6, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by Darth Xed
Not trying to open the proverbial "can of worms", but to be honest, a new Camaro that is retro styled after the first gen car is going to have a pretty predictable look to it.

Crispy's, Kris Horton's, and a laundry list of other retro concepts all look pretty much the same... at least in overall theme.
I agree. They all look very similar because they are so heavily based on the 1st gen Camaros. Smoothing out a few lines here, adding a curve there, a more aerodynamic windshield and there ya have it, a "new" 5th gen. I've said my opinion, I just hope that the 5th gen looks nothing like the drawings we have seen.
Old Jul 6, 2004 | 04:05 PM
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Let us not forget that a member of this forum whom also happens to work for the General said that the car "IS NOT RETRO".

I also agree that Sharpshooter's version met all the "criteria" without being too "retro"... let us hope that its something closer to the mark.
Old Jul 6, 2004 | 04:16 PM
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Kris's and Evoks are both too retro for my taste. Its needs more agressive look to it. It looks to soft to be a Camaro in some ways.
IF it was going to be retro, I would hope that GM uses Kris's design. It looks the most agressive.

This was a picture done by the Great Rex Raider for a contest done for GMI.com

http://www.gminsidenews.com/wallpaper/bh8.jpg

slap a different nose on it and I would like for the next Camaro to be close to this.
Old Jul 6, 2004 | 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by Darth Xed
What's the difference between them summarizing all the stuff, and the same thing you did a few months ago?

OK for one, but not the other, right?
Every one of my posts you reply to, you say something negative...so why not just not say anything and save us both the anger.


I wrote my article in September of last year (almost a year ago not a few months), and while something's had been previously mentioned I went into pretty deep detail for that time. Either way, i am not gonna defend an article writeen a year ago.

I just hope that they are publishing late enough not to hurt GM in the naming process, or negotiating with the CAW. If it goes into as much detail as I am assuming it does, I would have personally waited until the new CAW contract was negotiated to put it in print.

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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by jg95z28
Let us not forget that a member of this forum whom also happens to work for the General said that the car "IS NOT RETRO".

I also agree that Sharpshooter's version met all the "criteria" without being too "retro"... let us hope that its something closer to the mark.
I had someone very in the know point out sharpshooter's artwork and tell me how great it was
Old Jul 6, 2004 | 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by Big Als Z
Its needs more agressive look to it. It looks to soft to be a Camaro in some ways.
I don't think I've ever seen a more aggressive looking Camaro than that concept.
Old Jul 6, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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Guys and gals, realise at this time that what you THINK the new Camaro SHOULD look like doesn't matter at this point. We were told that the body design was just short of ordering the molds.

All PHR is trying to do (and some others) is put together the most accurate drawing of what the next car will look like based on what some have seen.
Old Jul 6, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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90Z28 SS's concepts are the only one's Ive ever really liked. There are a lot of nice ones and great art work, but his seem to blend a lot of the gens together without getting bogged down. But it seems we wont be going that direction. Lets just pray it's RWD, V8, handles well and sells well.
Old Jul 6, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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I'm just glad the ball is rolling on this (finally) You can put me in the camp with those who DO NOT want to see another "retro" designed car - being the new Camaro or any vehicle. IMO The next gen Camaro should have a whole new, forward thinking aesthetic. Not another regurgitation of a past design theme. I'll wait and see what the actual vehicle looks like and just hope for the best.
Old Jul 6, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by formula79
Every one of my posts you reply to, you say something negative...so why not just not say anything and save us both the anger.


I wrote my article in September of last year (almost a year ago not a few months), and while something's had been previously mentioned I went into pretty deep detail for that time. Either way, i am not gonna defend an article writeen a year ago.

I just hope that they are publishing late enough not to hurt GM in the naming process, or negotiating with the CAW. If it goes into as much detail as I am assuming it does, I would have personally waited until the new CAW contract was negotiated to put it in print.
My point, Branden, is that you are so quick to criticize others for things you have done yourself... you have this need to be glorified, and belittle others who, quite frankly, have far more credentials than you do.

I appreciate some of the things you bring to the table.... BUT

Think before you bash other people.

I guess I should expect nothing less from someone who has to have their name in 500pt. font in their signature on their own website.
Old Jul 6, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by formula79
I had someone very in the know point out sharpshooter's artwork and tell me how great it was
LINK for those who may not have seen his rendering the first time around.
Old Jul 6, 2004 | 09:23 PM
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I WILL BE POSTING A PIC ALL OF YOU WILL WANT TO SEE
when i can get back to my freinds place to scan it.
it is from a ...freind pretty high up in gm ok. so wait give me a week or so ok.
Old Jul 6, 2004 | 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by Chewbacca
LINK for those who may not have seen his rendering the first time around.
I was looking all over. Thanks man!
Old Jul 6, 2004 | 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by ShadowLord69
I WILL BE POSTING A PIC ALL OF YOU WILL WANT TO SEE
when i can get back to my freinds place to scan it.
it is from a ...freind pretty high up in gm ok. so wait give me a week or so ok.



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