Originally posted by Z28Wilson
Opinion Opinion Opinion. When you can back up your points with fact and not opinion I'll respect your views a little bit more.

Fact: Cadillac sales have been steadily increasing since A&S debuted.

Originally posted by Z28Wilson
Fact: Cadillac has lowered the average age of its buyer from well north of 60 a few years ago to age 56.

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Fact: Innovation? STS is the first car with magnetic ride control...

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Fact: Let's see, we have an M3-whooping sports sedan, an SUV that is the desire of well-off 20-somethings everywhere, a Deville that leads the large luxury sedan market....anything else?

Originally posted by Z28Wilson
Cadillac may not be doing everything right...but Lexus wasn't built in a day either. I think Caddy has what it takes to keep chipping away at substantial market share.

Originally posted by redzed
Call me when sales reach the 1973 level.

What the hell does that have to do with anything? Do you think GM should not be happy if they increase to 32% market share because at one time they commanded over 50%? The market has changed; there is much more competition, a different population, etc. Bottom line: increasing sales = good. Your refusal to give credit just reveals your ridiculous bias. I think you only post on this board to stir up crap, because you are always anti-GM. Be bitter if you want about the F-body dying (or whatever has caused you to hate GM so much), but refusing to give credit when credit is due makes you look horribly ignorant.

Big deal. GM is selling cars, not advertising.

Again, what the hell does that mean? Cadillac has been trying to shake its image as purely an old man's car, and dropping the average age from 60 to 56 is evidence that they are achieving their goal. Credit where credit is due, man. It's simple, really.

Another "big deal" piece of marketing hype - something that only mindless devotees take seriously. If you consider the active anti-roll systems on the newest Audis and BMWs, Delphi adjustable shock nonsense seems just plain silly. Wrong. Ever driven a car that has Magneride? Probably not. Anti-roll and damping are separate things... the 7 series has active roll control, but it still has adjustable damping. So is it marketing hype for them too, or do they get to take it seriously because they have the added feature of roll control? Are you a mindless devotee to BMW, whom you seem to take seriously? Or do you not realize that active roll control (moveable anti-roll bar) is separate from adjusting the shock firmness? [/b]

The CTS-V is crude and dramatically overpriced, and the DeVille's only direct competition is the geriatric Town Car. I'd also question how many "well-off 20-somethings" are in the market for an SRX or Escalade.

If you are going to make a (wrong) statement like that about the CTS-V, preface it with "I've driven a CTS-V, and..." Otherwise, I have to assume you are selling the "it's a pushrod engine, it must be crude" line of crap. I have driven a CTS-V, on more than one occasion. It is not crude at all; quite the contrary. The LS6 is a very smooth engine to begin with, and combining it with the sigma chassis and good sound management in the cabin makes for a very refined piece. The car is fast, smooth, quiet, and extremely solid, with excellent ride and handling. As for the Escalade, there is no question that it is an aspirational vehicle for many young people (thanks no doubt to rap videos and atheletes driving them).

Lexus pretty much did everything right from day one. Cadillac still is no where near Lexus levels of quality, reliability and resale value. Worst of all, my local Caddy dealer is the same creep who failed to service any of my Chevrolets.

Cadillac can't directly control resale value; it can only control the first two items, and years down the road, as reputation finally catches up to the product, resale value will climb. Surely you understand that, right?

I could look past all of the traditional Cadillac woes if the STS was desirable in appearance, or convincing in value. Sadly it isn't.

Well, that is your opinion. And you know what they say about opinions. But the fact of the matter is that the new Cadillacs exhibiting the Art & Science theme and the rwd platforms have been well received by the media and the public, and they are contributing to the rebirth and growth of Cadillac. You may not like the theme, and you are not alone. But evidently enough people do like it, because sales are up, and there is a pretty positive buzz around Cadillac lately. Sorry, I know you hate to hear that a GM division is doing alright.

I wonder how hard it is to get used to I-Drive?

Well, everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. But I don't know how anyone can criticize Cadillac's latest risky styling and then keep a straight face when referring to BMW in a positive light. The 7 Series is (imo) one of the ugliest cars of the last 10 years. The new 6 looks pretty good from most angles. Z4 = New 5 = :blah: (way worst than the previous 5). So, yeah.

Originally posted by redzed
Call me when sales reach the 1973 level.

Big deal. GM is selling cars, not advertising.

Another "big deal" piece of marketing hype....The CTS-V is crude and dramatically overpriced....

Originally posted by redzed

Worst of all, my local Caddy dealer is the same creep who failed to service any of my Chevrolets.

Originally posted by morb|d
redzed... quite simply, you're a retard.