So, in your opinion, Cadillac is worse off today and since CTS was launched than it was prior?

You've GOT to be kidding.

 

CTS is fine, it is unique, and reason so successful is the matrix, and not the front clip, lol


on a side note, the SRX is fugging ugly CTS on big wheel base.

STS is even worse!

its ok to make cars look edgier, but at least change the front end clip.

 

Would you really expect anything less from ole' redzed?

There is not a person on the planet who thinks Caddy is worse off now than it was a few years ago....................except one.

 

Yaaay! Redzed is here to post more drivel! Hooray!

First of all, it is "Art and Science", not "Arts and Sciences". This is a design theme title, not a list of college classes.

Second, the STS is on Sigma, as are the CTS and SRX, but I don't know what you mean about the "shared SRX 'crossover' structure". Again, have you seen the STS in person yet? I've seen it several times, and seen countless SRXs (and drove one). I don't see much SRX structure in the STS.

Third, I'm not sure where you get that the STS gets its new, RWD profile from the "dull-as-dirt silhouette borrowed from the last generation Seville", which was a front wheel drive G-body (Aurora) derivative. But ok.

Of course you are entitled to like or not like or want to poop on or whatever the styling of the cars, but your constant hating gets a little tiresome, especially when you usually haven't seen or touched the damn car to begin with. As for the Evoq and Imaj, while I really like the XLR, I admit that it doesn't have quite the same impact as the Evoq (proportions are slightly different, especially the rear bumper treatment).

 

Fawking beautiful!

I think it should be just a 'little' more edgey like a CTS to look drop dead gorgeous. But I like this too. A lot.

 

Not too bad. I think it fits in well with the Cadillac lineup. Should easily be recognizable as an STS and not a CTS. The CTS's rear end is more "high and tight" than the STS (I was thinking about this while I was behind a CTS today). The interior is very nice as well. Seems the Cadillac turnaround just keeps on rolling with full force.

Also I think I'll take the time to give the Art and Science design theme another Some people hate it but I'd take it anyday over BMW's new direction.

 

http://vogue-tyre.com/index-gallery.html

 

As I've said before, Cadillac's last "innovative" product was the 2000 DeVille which offered night vision for the first time. All of the products offered since then have been disappointing. The Sigma platform cars are ugly and overpriced - even by German standards. The same goes for the XLR and Escalade derivatives, cars that are simply Chevys in drag.


Call me when Cadillac breaks its previous sales record....

....set in 1973!

 

Ignorance is bliss, I suppose...

 

I suppose that the magnetorheological fluid shocks (aka Magnaride) were not innovative? Every review I've seen of a vehicle so equipped has raved about the ride and handling, from the C5 Corvette to the XLR to the SRX. While the Escalade is a (very good) Chevy in drag (hmm, along the lines of Navigator, LX470, Aviator, QX56, etc...), the XLR is not quite the same deal. Besides, so what if it is based on a C6 but with a nicer interior and some extra luxo/techy touches? The C5 Vette is a world class car with a mediocre interior. No one faults the Vette for its chassis. So Caddy started with the solid part of the Vette, added a Caddy-appropriate drivetrain and some luxury/tech features, and unique Caddy styling (with good exterior fit/finish based on what I've seen in most articles and in person). What exactly is the problem here?

Care to respond to my first post above?

 

I'm surprised you didn't invoke the "power of and."

The STS shares its wheelbase, drivetrain and firewall structure with the SRX - hence the high cowl.

Any similarity between the Sigma-based STS and the old G-bodied car comes down to deliberate design...

...or perhaps an utter lack of inspiration.

To paraphrase Triumph the Insult Comic Dog:

The new Cadillac STS is a great car....

...a great car for me to...



Oh well, you obviously can guess the rest.

 

Wanted to point out that the CTS also has a high cowl height because it has the same front firewall as the SRX and STS because they are all on Sigma. That was one of the things that was changed with Zeta because the designers knew they wanted a low slung coupe on the chassis and Sigma couldn't do that and look aggressive enough. Sigma is going to be the same basic parts fron CTS to ULS(if it gets made). Yes there will be changes made here and there but the basic structure is the same.

 

I rest my case.

 

Opinion Opinion Opinion. When you can back up your points with fact and not opinion I'll respect your views a little bit more.

Fact: Cadillac sales have been steadily increasing since A&S debuted.

Fact: Cadillac has lowered the average age of its buyer from well north of 60 a few years ago to age 56.

Fact: Innovation? STS is the first car with magnetic ride control...

Fact: Let's see, we have an M3-whooping sports sedan, an SUV that is the desire of well-off 20-somethings everywhere, a Deville that leads the large luxury sedan market....anything else?



Cadillac may not be doing everything right...but Lexus wasn't built in a day either. I think Caddy has what it takes to keep chipping away at substantial market share.

 

I'm really liking this new car!

Here are some more links to pictures.
http://www.bomengen.com/gm/sts/STS_5_web.jpg
http://www.bomengen.com/gm/sts/STS_7_web.jpg

Anybody wanna photochop a Chevy out of this?