Mustang likely to get 32v 5.4 engine & Falcon may be imported here!
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Originally posted by RiceEating5.0
Let's not forget the latest cz28 poll here where 37 members said they would buy it, 15 said they'd consider buying it if they liked how it drove, and only 21 said they wouldn't buy it. So out of 73 member who voted, 71% said they would consider buying it. That's coming from F-bod guys. Here's the link. http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...threadid=84520
I also remember the overwhelming positive response it's been receiving on every board from Honda boards to VW and Bmw boards. These are mostly guys who aren't even a fan of the current mustang or Ford's or domestics in general.
From the looks of it, young and old will like the 2005 mustang. It has been by far the hottest concept this year.
Let's not forget the latest cz28 poll here where 37 members said they would buy it, 15 said they'd consider buying it if they liked how it drove, and only 21 said they wouldn't buy it. So out of 73 member who voted, 71% said they would consider buying it. That's coming from F-bod guys. Here's the link. http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...threadid=84520
I also remember the overwhelming positive response it's been receiving on every board from Honda boards to VW and Bmw boards. These are mostly guys who aren't even a fan of the current mustang or Ford's or domestics in general.
From the looks of it, young and old will like the 2005 mustang. It has been by far the hottest concept this year.
to all of you who have said things as they should have regaurding IZ28's post's.I have a short fuse most of the time and tend to over look other peoples stupidity.
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People I know agree with me probably about stuff because they are around the same age. (and have sence ) I feel this car is going to appeal to a higher age group. Yes I dislike it because its a F*rd and a M*stang, but did I not say that the current car looks better?? I REALLY dislike the 05 because its retro and is a car that is supposed to appeal to younger people more. (not people that had the originals back in the day that probably won't buy 1 now) The 05 should have been a progression of the design direction that the car was going in and that made them a sales winner. Now they are going in the other direction instead. The designer of the car is a moron that only does retro, uninspiring designs. He said himself it's mostly based on 67's and cars from then!! I can't reply to every1's comments but lets just see how this style is selling a few years from now. This could be the M*stangs 4th Gen. They are going from a current time edgy design to a wierd looking retro car. I just care about GM's want to bring the Camaro back, and I think the M*stang selling good is a big factor.
) I feel this car is going to appeal to a higher age group. Yes I dislike it because its a F*rd and a M*stang, but did I not say that the current car looks better?? I REALLY dislike the 05 because its retro and is a car that is supposed to appeal to younger people more. (not people that had the originals back in the day that probably won't buy 1 now) The 05 should have been a progression of the design direction that the car was going in and that made them a sales winner. Now they are going in the other direction instead. The designer of the car is a moron that only does retro, uninspiring designs. He said himself it's mostly based on 67's and cars from then!! I can't reply to every1's comments but lets just see how this style is selling a few years from now. This could be the M*stangs 4th Gen. They are going from a current time edgy design to a wierd looking retro car. I just care about GM's want to bring the Camaro back, and I think the M*stang selling good is a big factor.
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How old are u again?I know many people in their 20's(Im in my 20's) and they love the new design.They are not blind to see it is a miixture of old and new.Yeah anyone can clearly see that your pissed that the F bod is gone.It is time to get over it dont ya think?And no this new Mustang wont be in the same catergory as your 4th gen.Why?you might ask?Because FORD loves this car more then ch*vy loves the Ca*aro and just as much as the General loves his Vette.
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OK guess who you're right. 
There's no sence in discussing anything with you because you are 1 of those people that makes it impossible. You really need to read what people say in their posts better. And you need to not be so quick to just go wacky at other's opinions.
There's no sence in discussing anything with you because you are 1 of those people that makes it impossible. You really need to read what people say in their posts better. And you need to not be so quick to just go wacky at other's opinions.
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Originally posted by IZ28
OK guess who you're right. There's no sence in discussing anything with you because you are 1 of those people that makes it impossible. You really need to read what people say in their posts better. And you need to not be so quick to just go wacky at other's opinions.
OK guess who you're right.
There's no sence in discussing anything with you because you are 1 of those people that makes it impossible. You really need to read what people say in their posts better. And you need to not be so quick to just go wacky at other's opinions.
guionM was clearly stating what engines are coming and so forth.
It wouldnt hurt my feelings if you didnt reply in this thread again.
guionM----Sorry for all this stupidity.
This thread ended up just like the rest of the threads on Z28.OFF TOPIC
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It started about engines but then changed to looks and where they came from or something, by I think ProudP. Anyway, I'm done with the retro 05 in this post so it can get back to whatever. Still IMO the current car looks better and will sell better, thats all I really wanted to say I guess. 
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Originally posted by RiceEating5.0
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, so how about we get back on topic?
Is the Mach-1 still a 1 or 2 year type deal or will it become the intermediate v8 between the base v8 the GT and the upscale Cobra?
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, so how about we get back on topic?
Is the Mach-1 still a 1 or 2 year type deal or will it become the intermediate v8 between the base v8 the GT and the upscale Cobra?
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Originally posted by RiceEating5.0
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, so how about we get back on topic?
Is the Mach-1 still a 1 or 2 year type deal or will it become the intermediate v8 between the base v8 the GT and the upscale Cobra?
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, so how about we get back on topic?
Is the Mach-1 still a 1 or 2 year type deal or will it become the intermediate v8 between the base v8 the GT and the upscale Cobra?
I can agree with the shaker scoop being on the 05 though
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Originally posted by guess who
As of right now the MACH1 is here til the end of 04.In 05 they are scheduling the BOSS to return.
I can agree with the shaker scoop being on the 05 though
As of right now the MACH1 is here til the end of 04.In 05 they are scheduling the BOSS to return.
I can agree with the shaker scoop being on the 05 though
I haven't looked into anything Ford's doing for a couple of months. Guess I'm really out of date there.
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IZ28, I think we're kinda "buds" in here. We agree on several things, like the late '80's IROC styling and such. So based on that connection, I gotta pipe-in a little about this debate (or debacle ) that has gone on for the last day or two. Don't put on your flamesuit - you don't need it, but please read what I have posted below with an open mind.
Thanks.
Totally acceptable statement. I take it as your opinion and I can respect it for that.
Totally acceptable statement. I take it as your opinion and I can respect it for that.
Totally your opinion, and I MUST take it for that, because Ford execs, VW execs, and over 80% of people at the NAIAS displays disagree with you. That "moron" has ALREADY made his mark on the entire auto industry in the last few years. He's wealthy, and he is sought after for his skills. If that's what it takes to be a moron, then color me moronic - please.
THIS does not look retro to me...
And here he stands withANOTHER "retro" design?
Dude, I'm not flamin' off on you by any means, but if you think either of those two images are retro, we seriously need to talk.
The guy does pretty good work IMO. He can be original and modern when that is prudent. He also has appreciation for a models history, and recognizes it when significant. In the case of Mustang, right or wrong, he has given the Mustang-buying public what they asked for. I should know.
You forget... Ford actually gives a sh1+ about the Mustang. They won't neglect it for a decade like happened to the F-cars - guaranteed. Even if sales start to slump a little by 2008 (which is normal a few years after a new intro), Ford will be working with the people to generate the next model and incorporate changes that the buying-public wants at that time. Mustang sales have only slipped below the 100k mark for 2 years ('91 and '92) since it's inception 39 years ago, and those 2 years were on a 10-y/o platform, and during the recession of the Persian Gulf conflict to boot. If I were a betting man (and I am ) I wouldn't bet on the Mustang dying like the F4. After all, Bill Ford, Jr would choose a red Mustang convertible as his 1 sole car if that was all he could have...
On this, we both agree. But I would like to add that I want the Camaro back as much for it's history as for it's future. If it comes back as something totally unrelated to the Camaro I know and relate to, I would rather it be called a Panther, MegaStorm, SuperCav or something else.
) that has gone on for the last day or two. Don't put on your flamesuit - you don't need it, but please read what I have posted below with an open mind.Thanks.
Originally posted by IZ28
I REALLY dislike the 05 because its retro and is a car that is supposed to appeal to younger people more. (not people that had the originals back in the day that probably won't buy 1 now)
I REALLY dislike the 05 because its retro and is a car that is supposed to appeal to younger people more. (not people that had the originals back in the day that probably won't buy 1 now)
Originally posted by IZ28 The 05 should have been a progression of the design direction that the car was going in and that made them a sales winner. Now they are going in the other direction instead.
Originally posted by IZ28
The designer of the car is a moron that only does retro, uninspiring designs. He said himself it's mostly based on 67's and cars from then!!
The designer of the car is a moron that only does retro, uninspiring designs. He said himself it's mostly based on 67's and cars from then!!
THIS does not look retro to me...
And here he stands withANOTHER "retro" design?
Dude, I'm not flamin' off on you by any means, but if you think either of those two images are retro, we seriously need to talk.
The guy does pretty good work IMO. He can be original and modern when that is prudent. He also has appreciation for a models history, and recognizes it when significant. In the case of Mustang, right or wrong, he has given the Mustang-buying public what they asked for. I should know.
Originally posted by IZ28
I can't reply to every1's comments but lets just see how this style is selling a few years from now. This could be the M*stangs 4th Gen.
I can't reply to every1's comments but lets just see how this style is selling a few years from now. This could be the M*stangs 4th Gen.
) I wouldn't bet on the Mustang dying like the F4. After all, Bill Ford, Jr would choose a red Mustang convertible as his 1 sole car if that was all he could have...
Originally posted by IZ28
I just care about GM's want to bring the Camaro back, and I think the M*stang selling good is a big factor.
I just care about GM's want to bring the Camaro back, and I think the M*stang selling good is a big factor.
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Gotta chime in here (bound to happen soon or later, right?).
I agree 100% with everything Proudpony wrote. J. Mays isn't a moron, is sought after by every single major car company.
Also, you will be surprized to know that Bob Lutz & many GM executives and designers also PRAISED Mustang's design. The public enthusiasm has been fantastic, and IZ28, I don't know where you find those "every one you talk to people", but it seems that even alot of people on this thread are actually considering this new Mustang as their next car, gen 5 Camaro notwithstanding. Styling is subjective, and your opinion on style is just as valid as everyone else's, but much of what you say contradicts what really has taken place.
I agree 100% with everything Proudpony wrote. J. Mays isn't a moron, is sought after by every single major car company.
Also, you will be surprized to know that Bob Lutz & many GM executives and designers also PRAISED Mustang's design. The public enthusiasm has been fantastic, and IZ28, I don't know where you find those "every one you talk to people", but it seems that even alot of people on this thread are actually considering this new Mustang as their next car, gen 5 Camaro notwithstanding. Styling is subjective, and your opinion on style is just as valid as everyone else's, but much of what you say contradicts what really has taken place.