Damn non-disclosure agreements.

 

Sorry to go off into never never land with our immature friend there.I was just trying to be nice and fill you guys in on some things that I know regaurding the 05.
I really didnt want to degrade the Mustangs lost buddy like that.

Either way you have more info regaurding it.I hope that it fills your need for info/DIRT on the subject.I will chime in when neccesary.

 

Going off the handle is immature. Making a comment about a retro design and how the current car looks better is not. If any1 can't see that car is blatant retro or that this will probably not be good in the long term, then I just don't know. Most younger GT buyers that bought them because of their more up to date and edgy looks aren't gonna want a car from 67 thats slightly more rounded, and that looks wierd IMO anyway.

 

saying a car wont sell because you cant buy a Fbody is immature.
A mature person would not try and start a childish flame.
Besides do you think Ford asked potential chevy buyers if they liked it?Hell some chevy guys love it.Some are already planning on buying it.So your comments are useless

HAve you even seen the concept in person?Your not wanting to put your location in your profile.And a younger crowd will love then new car.Why you might ask.Because their fathers most likely had a 60's Mustang and they want to enjoy the same feelings their father had.

 

I don't think that has anything to do with it, looks are looks, it would be stupid to buy a car for a reason like that. You should buy a car because you like it. The F-Body not being in production anymore has nothing to do with my comments or opinion on this. I never liked 4th Gens and most 2nd Gens either.

 

I think the 2005 will prove your post wrong. I have to ask though, what are you basing this speculation off?

Just because some over-feminized beetle, underpowered, overweight, and overpriced thunderbird, and the fugly PT cruiser didn't sell well doesn't mean that the mustang won't. Saying that a mustang won't sell well because a Beetle or PT cruiser didn't is almost laughable considering neither is a Mustang caliber vehicle. All these other vehicles had flaws and shortcomings that went beyond their retro styling. Heck, the Sn95 mustangs and the 4th gen both had futuristic/modern styling, yet 1 outsold the other two combined 3 to 1. Could you explain that? Yes the 2005 is retro, but it's also unmistakenly modern and good looking. If they give it a modern chassis and a bevy of good performance options (which they will), i'd say Ford pulled the next gen mustang off really nicely.

If they actively market, have special editions, keep the prices competitively affordable, offer a variety of engine and performance options, and do what they're currently doing now, i don't see why the sales #'s would drop. It'll easily sell 120,000+units year after year.

 

I don't think sales will be only good for the first year -

The Beetle isn't true to its original mission: its not a cheap car, is FWD and feminine. I wouldn't call it a failure though, they have sold over 350,000 of them and without the sales figures, I'd wager that they sell more beetles than Golfs here in the USA.

The T-Bird was originally a competitor to the Corvette. Although the styling was more relaxed, there were supercharged performance versions. The new T-Bird isn't exceptional in any way, other than the looks.

The PT cruiser isn't based on a particular model. Sales have dropped off a lot, but I think it still sells well in its class.

The Mustang is a unique case - it is true to its original mission, will have the performance to back up the looks and uses several styling cues that have been used on and off for over 30 years. It also has a more loyal following than any of those other cars. Of course, sales will drop off after the first or second year - everybody will want it when its new - retro or not - but I think it will be a consitent high seller.

(BTW, the 'futuristic' 4th gen sales started plummeting after 2-3 years)

 

I would 100% agree with your post minus the T-Bird comments.
A lil insight.The T-bird was a luxo sport coupe/vert when it came out.It started the market that the Vette followed the bird til 63 when the Vette became a Vette.From there is where they both went seperate ways.But right now the T-Bird is "BACK" to its roots.
If Chevy goes back to the Vettes roots you chevy guys would be pissed.The Bird as it is now is a nice car,But people have to think what made the Bird a Bird in the first place and that is the formula that it is using right now.
Im not flaming ya bud just showing you a diff. side is all.

 

Of course the F*rd or M*stang guys are gonna stick up for it, but I think this car's sales are gonna look alot like the 4th Gens' except the 1st year will be good. I can't find another dude in their early 20's also that likes it. They all like the current car better too, the 1 that looks the way it should and not retro. I still say, I'd like to see what a real 05 M*stang would have looked like instead over the done-over 67 retro concept.

I mean I don't like F*rd or the M*stang at all, the only thing I'm concerned about is what GM might think if the M*stang doesn't sell or keep selling. It might make them change their minds about bringing back the Camaro.

 

With your post it is all the reason why you shouldnt of came in here to post your opionion when noone was being a dik about things.

 

I can't help but notice that you always say everyone you know agrees with your opinions. Always.

Every single person you know doesn't like the GTO or the new Mustang and thinks that Z28 should be the top model and whatever else you're campaigning for...

Yeah, ok.

 

Just curious, what would a "real" '05 Mustang look like?

 

IZ28, it wouldn't matter what a non retro inspired 2005 Mustang would look like. You'd hate it anyways because "it's a M*****G!!!!! It must be bad!!!" Let's all be mature car enthusiasts and give credit where credit is due. This should be irregardless whether you have no bias towards any auto manufactuer or whether you are so blinded by brand loyalty that you hate anything without a Chevy bowtie on it like you would hate cancer. The 2005 Mustang is going to be an incredible car and I very much look forward to seeing it on the street. Oh, and yes, I'm not a Ford guy either and I grew up in a whole Chevy family.

 

I'm not a "FORD" guy, I'm a CAR enthusiast. But considering the differences in how Ford is treating Mustang Fans vs. GM's treatment of Camaro fans, its easy to stick up for them - especially when they heading in the right direction.

BTW, there were lots of people of all ages crowding the display at NAIAS.

 

Let's not forget the latest cz28 poll here where 37 members said they would buy it, 15 said they'd consider buying it if they liked how it drove, and only 21 said they wouldn't buy it. So out of 73 member who voted, 71% said they would consider buying it. That's coming from F-bod guys. Here's the link. http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...threadid=84520


I also remember the overwhelming positive response it's been receiving on every board from Honda boards to VW and Bmw boards. These are mostly guys who aren't even a fan of the current mustang or Ford's or domestics in general.

From the looks of it, young and old will like the 2005 mustang. It has been by far the hottest concept this year.