Look, at 275rwhp it either goes on a helluva diet (doubtful...) or it gets the smackdown.

On average, V8 Mustangs were about 50 lbs. heavier than the LS1 F-cars.

If I were stock, I'd fear no Mach 1.

 

Last time I heard, 300rwhp beats 275 rwhp.

 

I think they should just keep making the current car LOL!!

 

I don't think Ford will do another BULLITT...due to legal issues, but I thought this was neat.

http://home.comcast.net/~tuki12/index5.html

 

4.6 3v with VCT which "should" give it one hellofa torque curve I dont see (depending on what gear Ford puts in the GT) getting with a LS1 F-bod would be all that hard.But then again there is the weight issue.Nobody knows what that is or will be.

FWIW,Alot of MACH1's are in the neighborhood of 335hp at the crank.But I like to believe 325hp is a lil more accurate.

 

The Mach-1 is 100+ lbs heavier than the current GT and has the heavier 32v 4.6 in it as well. So far, they've dyno'd 275rwhp and have smacked down low 13 sec passes at 106-107mph (hmmm Ls-1??). Motor Trend got a 13.2@106.7mph. MM&FF has gotten 13.0's, and 5.0 mag 13.1's. The dyno’s are not ls-1 #’s, but the ¼ miles sure are.

The 32v 4.6 is also said to be peaky. The Sohc 3v should have a better low-end which might help somewhat. For the most part, that's what the 32v motor lacked.

Really? I thought the Ls-1 cars were heavier. In fact, the BASE 3.8L f-bod has a higher published weight than even the v8 GT. Here are the numbers off carpoint. The below are 2002 coupe models (last year f-bod made) with manual transmissions. No Cobra for 2002.

Base model:
Camaro: 3,323lbs
Mustang: 3114lbs

Mid models:
GT: 3,273lbs
Z28: 3,411lbs

Now unless these #’s are way off, the Mustangs in general are lighter. What #’s did you have in mind?

It's capable of giving you a really good run; especially seeing as how it runs well into Ls- territory. Fear? No. But i wouldn't get overconfident. It could very well turn out to be a driver’s race.

 

Outstanding numbers, but LS1s are well capable of getting into the 12's stock and it doesn't take a professional driver to do it. I've been to the track a few times and I've never seen lower than a 13.6 from a Mach 1.

Yeah, LS1s are a bit heavier, Mustangs have to deal with more drag though...it's a toss up.

I've taken one by a car length and a half with my 13.49 @ 106 LS1. Nothing really special, but it was enough to get the job done. I'm an average driver at best, I won't fear.

 

My point was that the bulk of Ls-1 cars are in the lower 13's. You've seen the dyno variations yourself. One will dyno 320rwhp or 315rwhp and another 290rwhp or 300rwhp, with many falling in between.

True. I think the CD for the Gt's is .34 and z28's .32. 2 tenths advantage. We're not talking about a huge aero advantage here. Then again, the extra 100lbs or so in the ls-1 cars is easily overcome by their superior Hp and tq output. In the end, the aero or weight advantage means little.

The Mach’s advantage is in the gearing since it comes with factory 3.55’s, which can be considered a mild performance gear.

True, I never said you had anything to fear. I just said don't be overconfident because it could very well turn out to be a drivers race since the two cars are pretty close.

Btw, the Mach is available in Auto which is said to be over half a second slower than the 5spd. That makes a world of difference.

 

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LS1's with the M6 come with 3.46's.Far from the 3.27 in previous years of the DOHC 4.6...3.55 in the MACH are what should of been in the 4.6 cars years ago,It would of been more inline with the F bod.Then again the LS1's had that 6 speed.

 

I know it's cammoed and all but still, every angle I view that car from I think.....

Frumpy. :blah:

 

4th gen M6's have 3.42's.

 

I really liked the silver coupe concept's proportion. I have a deep feeling that Ford will F it up.

 

Someone at BON did the car without the camoflage.

http://warnerrobert.com/ubb/ultimate...c;f=2;t=001736

 

It kind of looks like a current Mustang with a bodykit.