More G8 news.
I don't either. In particular, I think the lousy rear visibility on the Magnum has absolutely killed it as a family car -- and that was supposed to be its reason for being, a muscle car that guys could sell the wife on.
If it could be enlarged to say 3.2 L and made to rev higher the HP output could rise by quite a bit. I think the engine is tuned for economy right now, and is mated to a slushbox only.
I like I6's as well. If GM had a compelling need for a compact I6, I'd imagine they would base it on the Ecotec's architecture, rather than the Daewoo unit. They just have too much developement invested in Ecotec at this point, which could be easily applied to a six banger version.
Anyway, if they were to use a six, it would be a V6 - but they aren't.
Why?
Because when work starts on a new car arhitecture, everyone is trying to put their 2 cents into it. They'll look at this small, affordable, RWD platform, designed around a 4 cylinder powerplant and say, let's re-do it to fit a V6. The next guy says let's add this or that. We get mission creep. Our originally envisaged small and affordable platform suddenly becomes neither small nor affordable.
Anyway, if they were to use a six, it would be a V6 - but they aren't.
Why?
Because when work starts on a new car arhitecture, everyone is trying to put their 2 cents into it. They'll look at this small, affordable, RWD platform, designed around a 4 cylinder powerplant and say, let's re-do it to fit a V6. The next guy says let's add this or that. We get mission creep. Our originally envisaged small and affordable platform suddenly becomes neither small nor affordable.
Last edited by Z284ever; Jan 13, 2007 at 07:48 PM.
Because when work starts on a new car arhitecture, everyone is trying to put their 2 cents into it. They'll look at this small, affordable, RWD platform, designed around a 4 cylinder powerplant and say, let's re-do it to fit a V6. The next guy says let's add this or that. We get mission creep. Our originally envisaged small and affordable platform suddenly becomes neither small nor affordable.
My other question would be how much differentiation can you really have between small kappa based RWD 4bangers...I can imagine anything other than one model in four different configurations... Coupe, Sedan, Vert, Wagon?
And it won't be just Pontiacs either.
I like I6's as well. If GM had a compelling need for a compact I6, I'd imagine they would base it on the Ecotec's architecture, rather than the Daewoo unit. They just have too much developement invested in Ecotec at this point, which could be easily applied to a six banger version.
Anyway, if they were to use a six, it would be a V6 - but they aren't.
Why?
Because when work starts on a new car arhitecture, everyone is trying to put their 2 cents into it. They'll look at this small, affordable, RWD platform, designed around a 4 cylinder powerplant and say, let's re-do it to fit a V6. The next guy says let's add this or that. We get mission creep. Our originally envisaged small and affordable platform suddenly becomes neither small nor affordable.
Anyway, if they were to use a six, it would be a V6 - but they aren't.
Why?
Because when work starts on a new car arhitecture, everyone is trying to put their 2 cents into it. They'll look at this small, affordable, RWD platform, designed around a 4 cylinder powerplant and say, let's re-do it to fit a V6. The next guy says let's add this or that. We get mission creep. Our originally envisaged small and affordable platform suddenly becomes neither small nor affordable.
I think the 6 makes sense if Cadillac is supposed to get one of them. Otherwise, the Ecotec will do everything they need it too.
P.S. seeing more and more pics of the commodore. I think the fact that you can throw some wheels on it with a lip, unless you run into fitment issues with the caliper. One thing I dislike about the CTS-V is the fact that it allows for virtually no lip. The Camaro concept also looks like it can fit a nice lip. I have a 3" lip on my BMW's wheels and I love a wheel with lip lol
P.S. seeing more and more pics of the commodore. I think the fact that you can throw some wheels on it with a lip, unless you run into fitment issues with the caliper. One thing I dislike about the CTS-V is the fact that it allows for virtually no lip. The Camaro concept also looks like it can fit a nice lip. I have a 3" lip on my BMW's wheels and I love a wheel with lip lol
Last edited by JB'z 94; Jan 14, 2007 at 04:09 AM.
When do you think we'll see the first Alpha concept? Any chance there will be one at Chicago?






