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You guys have to get realistic about the Pontiac look thing. If its a Pontiac car, except the Firebird, its going to look like every other Pontiac car.
This one should be better because a bigger G6 front end wouldnt fit or flow with that body. So it will probably be a Holden with an arrow.
This one should be better because a bigger G6 front end wouldnt fit or flow with that body. So it will probably be a Holden with an arrow.
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Production of a second-generation model with unique Pontiac styling should begin at GM's plant in Oshawa, Ontario, in 2009.
We also got into an intense debate on the prospects of a new GTO I insisted was going to also happen too.
I won't go into the doubts about Pontiac getting the VE.
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Actually I recall us getting into an intense debate over that one (Oshawa made, Impala based, Pontiac sedan) after I continually insisted it was going to happen..... about a year or so ago if I remember.
We also got into an intense debate on the prospects of a new GTO I insisted was going to also happen too.
I won't go into the doubts about Pontiac getting the VE.
We also got into an intense debate on the prospects of a new GTO I insisted was going to also happen too.
I won't go into the doubts about Pontiac getting the VE.
..... what's to debate??
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I guess another way to ask is this: hypothetically speaking, would such a GTO be another Monaro twin or a Camaro derivative?
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Actually I recall us getting into an intense debate over that one (Oshawa made, Impala based, Pontiac sedan) after I continually insisted it was going to happen..... about a year or so ago if I remember.
We also got into an intense debate on the prospects of a new GTO I insisted was going to also happen too.
I won't go into the doubts about Pontiac getting the VE.
We also got into an intense debate on the prospects of a new GTO I insisted was going to also happen too.
I won't go into the doubts about Pontiac getting the VE.
I was referring to the part in the story about a long wheelbase Caprice.
As far as a GTO, I still see no sign of one anytime soon, or perhaps anytime period.
And re: a VE Pontiac, I think I've always been of the opinion that, that would be the only way Pontiac would get a Zeta in this decade, after GMX282 and GMX285 were cancelled.
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It's possible that Holden won't even make any Zetas by early to mid next decade, instead making Aphas for Australia, Asia, etc.. Possibly.
During this same period, Pontiac may actually have an ALL NEW product line up, consisting of small, sporty, RWD, Ecotec powered, coupes/sedans/convertibles/wagons.
And....in the middle of this, someone would need to make the case for a GTO, even if it doesn't fit in with Pontiac's product mix, right when the Camaro and CTS coupe will be sucking the GM coupe oxygen out of the room.
All while......GMNA wants to forget about the VZ GTO, like a bad hangover.
Hypothetically speaking.....I'm just sayin'..............
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Holden Commodore SS set to become Pontiac G8
Rick Kranz | | Automotive News / January 12, 2007 - 8:53 am
General Motors is expected to expand Pontiac's U.S. product line with a rebadged rear-drive Australian sedan.
The Holden Commodore SS will be called the Pontiac G8 and priced around $25,000, according to the Herald Sun in Melbourne, Australia.
While GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz did not confirm the plan, he told the newspaper, "It's such a logical thing to do. The volume range is 30,000 to 50,000. It depends on how we price it." He refused to say when shipments might begin.
Lutz said details would be revealed next month.
"We have yet to make an official announcement," Lutz said. "Much more will be revealed at the Chicago show."
This will be GM's second try at selling a rebadged Holden model as a Pontiac in the United States. The Holden Monaro was marketed as the Pontiac GTO for the 2004 to 2006 model years. Sales did not live up to expectations.
Rick Kranz | | Automotive News / January 12, 2007 - 8:53 am
General Motors is expected to expand Pontiac's U.S. product line with a rebadged rear-drive Australian sedan.
The Holden Commodore SS will be called the Pontiac G8 and priced around $25,000, according to the Herald Sun in Melbourne, Australia.
While GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz did not confirm the plan, he told the newspaper, "It's such a logical thing to do. The volume range is 30,000 to 50,000. It depends on how we price it." He refused to say when shipments might begin.
Lutz said details would be revealed next month.
"We have yet to make an official announcement," Lutz said. "Much more will be revealed at the Chicago show."
This will be GM's second try at selling a rebadged Holden model as a Pontiac in the United States. The Holden Monaro was marketed as the Pontiac GTO for the 2004 to 2006 model years. Sales did not live up to expectations.
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BTW, re your theory, speaking as someone who has owned a couple of BMWs, they're gonna need more than an Ecotec to play in that market. What they really need is a nice rev-happy straight six. Does the corp have something like that in the parts bins anywhere? Any hints that they might develop one (off the Ecotec architecture, maybe)?
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Thanks to an aluminum engine block, mostly. The LX is slightly bigger too. I like the styling of the Holden far more than the LXs. I sat in the three LXs again yesterday at the autoshow (San Jose, where it's actually colder than Detroit! -- 34F last night), and I really don't like the high beltline.
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I spent a good chunk of today in the archives. (Thanks to an indecisive client for a slow work day.) Let's say that I'm aware of your theory and have given it due consideration. I'm also aware there's a competing theory and I'm hoping to get a bit more detail on that one.
BTW, re your theory, speaking as someone who has owned a couple of BMWs, they're gonna need more than an Ecotec to play in that market. What they really need is a nice rev-happy straight six. Does the corp have something like that in the parts bins anywhere? Any hints that they might develop one (off the Ecotec architecture, maybe)?
BTW, re your theory, speaking as someone who has owned a couple of BMWs, they're gonna need more than an Ecotec to play in that market. What they really need is a nice rev-happy straight six. Does the corp have something like that in the parts bins anywhere? Any hints that they might develop one (off the Ecotec architecture, maybe)?
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