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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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More G8 news.

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Pontiac will get pep with sport sedan
January 12, 2007

BY MARK PHELAN

FREE PRESS AUTO CRITIC

Pontiac will add a rear-wheel-drive sport sedan to its lineup as soon as the end of this year or in early 2008, General Motors Corp. sources confirmed Thursday. GM will probably officially announce the car at the Chicago auto show in February.

The news was reported this week in the Sydney (Australia) Morning Herald, which quoted GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz.

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The person did not want to be named, because Lutz was not yet authorized to announce the decision.

The car, to be called the G8, will be based on the Holden Commodore VE SS, which went on sale in Australia last August. It will eventually replace the Pontiac Grand Prix.

The top Commodore model features a 362-horsepower 6.0-liter V8 engine and a choice of six-speed automatic or manual transmission. The five-passenger sedan is about 5 inches shorter than a Pontiac Grand Prix.

The powerful model should help bolster Pontiac's standing as GM's performance brand.

Pontiac expects to sell 25,000 to 30,000 G8s annually, a person close to the program said. The car will initially be imported from Australia and share its sheet metal with the Commodore VE, although the grille and bumpers "will be unmistakably Pontiac," the person said.

Production of a second-generation model with unique Pontiac styling should begin at GM's plant in Oshawa, Ontario, in 2009.

The G8 comes from the same global Zeta development program as the Chevrolet Camaro sports coupe and convertible, which Oshawa will begin building in late 2008 or early 2009.

The program was developed in Australia, GM's center of expertise for affordable rear-wheel-drive cars. It is also expected to produce the Chevrolet Caprice large rear-wheel-sedan and one or more models for Buick.

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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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The car will initially be imported from Australia and share its sheet metal with the Commodore VE, although the grille and bumpers "will be unmistakably Pontiac," the person said.
I don't know if that is good or bad. I think I'd rather just have a Pontiac badge on the Holden car.
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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I don't know if that is good or bad. I think I'd rather just have a Pontiac badge on the Holden car.
Me too.

So how much is this gem going to cost?
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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4338486 although the grille and bumpers "will be unmistakably Pontiac," the person said.
I bet a lot of people willl like this part.
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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Does than mean Chevy is getting a Caprice at the same time??
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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It needs to look like a Pontiac.

G6, G5, Torrent, Solstice, Grand Prix, hell even the Montana minivan ALL have the trademark Pontiac twin port grille.

Old Jan 12, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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How much does the current Holden Commodore VE SS weigh?
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
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The car will initially be imported from Australia and share its sheet metal with the Commodore VE, although the grille and bumpers "will be unmistakably Pontiac," the person said.
Oh boy, here we go again.
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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although the grille and bumpers "will be unmistakably Pontiac,".
NOOOOOOO!!!!!! GM, just send it over as is

As was posted in the other thread this is the only change needed:


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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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I really want one of these. Hopefully GMNA won't screw it up too badly.
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by graham
Does than mean Chevy is getting a Caprice at the same time??
That part is news to me too. I'll keep my eye on that.
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
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It will eventually replace the Pontiac Grand Prix.
That'll make a little room in Oshawa!
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 12:36 PM
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That part is news to me too. I'll keep my eye on that.
News to me too. Maybe the reporter screwed up?

I thought the bit about a second-gen model starting at Oshawa in 09 was interesting. I was kind of under the impression that Holden might supply Zeta Pontiacs longer-term. So we'll only have one or two model years of the rebadged Holden? (What's Holden going to do with that leftover capacity? Maybe that's where the GTO is hiding? )

Oh, and I love the idea of some VP in PR or whoever "authorizing" Bob to say this or that. They might "suggest", or more likely plead with him (politely) not to mention certain things, but not so much with the authorizing, I think.
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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News to me too. Maybe the reporter screwed up?

I thought the bit about a second-gen model starting at Oshawa in 09 was interesting. I was kind of under the impression that Holden might supply Zeta Pontiacs longer-term. So we'll only have one or two model years of the rebadged Holden? (What's Holden going to do with that leftover capacity? Maybe that's where the GTO is hiding? )

Oh, and I love the idea of some VP in PR or whoever "authorizing" Bob to say this or that. They might "suggest", or more likely plead with him (politely) not to mention certain things, but not so much with the authorizing, I think.
Yeah, maybe it was a screw up.

And a next gen replacement in 09? I just don't know how that would happen.

But, IF Pontiac get's a follow on product, I think it'll be quite abit swoopier than the Commodore.
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 2K1SunsetSS
How much does the current Holden Commodore VE SS weigh?
I'd like to know too. I'm praying Pontiac doesn't f*ck it all up with the "unmistakable Pontiac" bumpers. It looks good right now.



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