So say you have a freaky g/f that likes pics and videos taken of her nude and you also have friends that like to come over often. Say one of them stumbles upon your hiding spot for these and posts them on the internet....whos the bad guy?

 

Bye Scott, better to be quiet than unemployed.

 

And there is a problem with your analogy as well. See if any cops are going to take you seriously if you come to them claiming your wallet was stolen when you left your window down. It's not even worth reporting the crime, isn't it?

 

Its pretty obvious, that guy who took and posted the pictures without my knolwege or consent. I'd be pissed as hell, and if I ever figured out who it was, I'd most likely get him to take them off the internet and then bash his head in. And I don't think I'd hook up with that type of woman anyways. No telling where a freak like that has been.

 

Hey, don't put words into my mouth. I didn't say that stealing the pics from GM is okay. STEALING IS ILLEGAL AND IMMORAL.

All I am saying is GM should do a better job of safeguarding their secrets from dishonorable, dishonset theifs. Or not hire those type of people who leak secrets.

 

The word "BARGAIN" is incompatible with a homely car that has a price pushing $55-60K, service department waiting rooms that are shared with Aveo owners, and plastic body panel technology that's share with Saturn but hardly any other responsible manufacturer (and soon, not even Saturn).



I never recollect seeing a C5 coupe with a $54,500+ MSRP. That's what the sticker says, not dealer markup. Too close to a Porsche 911 for comfort, at least where I stand. I wouldn't be cheap enough to pass up a Porsche 911 just to save the price of an Aveo.

The C5 Corvette was a huge success because it was accessable to moderately affluent enthusiasts. (Keep in mind that multiple car households with moderate 6-figure incomes are pretty much the "average" in the better parts of country.) Now that the C6 Z06 is pushing into the $70K range.... In that price range, you might soon be able to purchase a Mercedes SLK55 AMG and save money over the plastic-bodied Chevy.



Tom Peter's styling knocked the "halo" right off the 'Vette. I'm sure there will takers for $70K Corvettes, just as there were takers for $40K Buick Regals in China.

 

For God's sake man, you really are the master at internet drivel. A base C6 stickers at $44,245. Ok so you don't like the base car. I just went to Chevy's website and fully optioned a C6 coupe and the MSRP came up right around $52,000. If I want to throw in the Z51 package we get close to $55,000. Where do you come up with this $60,000 sticker? So tell me, what car can you buy at this price offering better performance...I'll wait.

FOR THE LOVE OF J.C., WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS FIGURE?!?!? I asked you earlier in this thread, then again it's just like you to ignore questions/points that conflict with your inexplicable hatred for all General Motors products . You show me where GM has released pricing info for the C6 Z06 and we'll talk................

 

Shucks, Z28Wilson couldn't have heard that there's a drop-top C6 Corvette? That $60K figure is very posible with the soft top, and we're not even talking Z06.

If you don't thnk that the $60k rag top is overpriced, consider the fact that the nifty Mercedes SLK55 AMG will probably start for less that quite a bit less than $60K.



Unless GM adopts a value pricing policy like the one Daimler-Chrysler applied to the 300 and Magnum (seemingly at the last moment), that $70K figure is very likely for the Z06.

 

If it's value or "bargain" we're both talking about, we're talking about the coupe. Then again performance/dollar will always come down to a coupe over a convertible. The convertible could conceivably approach $60k if you opt for a power top, something you can't compare to C5 since the power top is a long-overdue option. Another thing, you're forgetting it was very possible to spend more on a C5 vert than a C5 Z06.

But we don't know. It's pretty irresponsible to throw around prices like gospel. Let's say the new Z06 is right around $70,000 (I doubt it but ok). You're saying this still wouldn't be a "bargain" if it whoops the ever-living snot out of anything south of 6 figures?

 

Starts at $61,220 according to Mercedes. Do you do ANY research before you post, or does it help your argument to base it solely on guesswork and conjecture?

Plus, that's a luxury car with 355hp. Considering the last gen SLK350 weighed about 3,300 pounds, adding a V8 means this one is probably even heavier.

How exactly does this car compare with a Corvette? They won't be cross shopped at all. Maybe with the XLR

 

If GM closes off leaks of information it's going to pitch a fit about if it gets released to the public, it means people like YOU will be less informed, and people like me will be just as informed as ever.

You "insiders" won't have as much info, but everyone else will be just as in the dark as GM wants us to be.

 

Redzed, you hijacker. Look at how off topic we are now that we have had to correct your mindless, and untrue "facts" on Corvette prices.

 

Haha! I love it. Nice little jab at the "I know something you don't know" crowd.

MunchE, you've pretty much summed up my feelings on this one. I'm sure you'll continue to take a flaming from the "insiders", but know there are people that agree with you.

As for RP leaving, that is very sad indeed. I don't blame RP one bit. If my job was on the line for something like this, I'd be out of here too. The sad part that MunchE alluded to and 99% of you missed is that this kind of situation even exists in GM. Where employees have to fear for their careers because they tell future car buyers to "keep the faith".

All I can say, is GM better get it's act together. Just the discussion of incidents like this and the percieved cloak & dagger tactics are enough to send people elsewhere. The actual blame doesn't really factor into the equation.

Making RP feel that he can no longer join in discussions here is definitely a step in the **** direction for GM. Don't get me wrong, the guy who released the photo should fry, but the resulting overreaction by GM (as evidenced by posts like this all over the 'net) is not helping.

 

Shucks.... Tell me numbers when you hear them posted on GM site.

Talk numbers when you hear them posted on GM site.

Not to do your "shopping" for you, but this bargain SLK55 AMG starts at $61,220 with 360 HP from its supercharged 5.5L V8. What a piece of sh~t.




Hemi Chryslers are anything BUT a bargain. With prices being in mid 30s or mid to high 40s in Canada.

 

Are you an id|ot, or you just pretending to be one?

Porsche 911 starts at $69,300. That's the lowest end 911. And it's got 325 HP to boot. You want to know what a rip off 911 is? The overpriced C6 Z71 (we're talking about base C6 with performance suspension, costing about $46,000) handing 911 GT2 its *** on a racetrack, a car that costs $191,000. To me, and to everybody else, C6 is a bargain.



Undisputable. But what do we have here? Oh oh. C6 costs actually $300 less than C5!!! Wow, do you know what that means? That means that it will be accessible to all the demographic of C5, plus all new demographic that can NOW afford C6 because of its $300 cheaper price tag!!!


In that price range, find me another car that produces 500 HP and will outhandle anything short of $500,000+ superexotics to the likes of Enzo Ferrari.

Once again, talk numbers once you see them posted on GM site.

or in other words, buy an overpiced piece of *&^# that will have its *** beat by SRT-4., a car that costs $50,000 less.