Don't know for sure. I will try to have the pages translated by someone I know who speaks janpaneese. Then we will know. There are a few repoerts that it is on R compound tires. So far nothing official.

 

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OK. I just received word on a single flying lap at VIR by the GTR. 2:09, less than an hour ago. Although this is good. It is about par for a C5Z. Last year I had my students running better than that in bone stock C6Z's on their runflats.

Considering that the GTR is being driven by a very competent driver, I'd say that the GTR is pretty much what those of us who race, expected. Certainly better than a bone stock C5. Equal or maybe even better than a stock C5Z, but barely a match for a C6Z. And for SURE, no match for a ZR1!

If it truly is capable of a 7:29 ring time, assuming it's being measured the same way as a Z06, it should EASILY do VIR in less than 2:00 flat since C6Z's regularly do 2:05 or better.
SO I'm calling on the ring time.
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It is same day, same conditions. Also the GT-R is a test mule ringer, with more than 500 HP crank and driven by a pro, Tony Swan.
Granted the other cars are modified. But a 7 years old C5 Z06 is beating the GT-R so far.

Do you honestly believe that a car that can do 7m29s on Nordschleife cannot beat the competition at One Lap of America and cannot do better than 2m09s at VIR?

One Lap of America. Take VIR for example. 1 x Viper, 2 x C5 Z06 and 2 x Porsche 996 Turbo have beaten your "dragon slayer". If the GT-R would be up there with Zonda and Carrera GT (as per 7m29s claim) it would dominate the race, but it is NOT.

Nissan claimed that a stock GT-R was a 7:29 Ring time car. If this was true, it would not be performing as poorly as it is in real competition

http://www.onelapofamerica.com/histo...08&res=OVL_***
Gee, Z06 5th and GTR 1th!!! These are the FINAL standings!!!

http://onelapofamerica.com/history/2...=2008&res=EV07
Z06 8th & 10th. GTR 16th!!!

As further confirmation more recent results from One Lap of America:

Event 3 - Mid-America Motorplex #1, GT-R finished 14th
http://www.onelapofamerica.com/histo...=2008&res=EV03

Event 4 - Mid-America Motorplex #2, GT-R finished 8th
http://www.onelapofamerica.com/histo...=2008&res=EV04

I expect this trend to continue. If the GT-R would be so great as the ridiculous Nurburgring claims then it should simply dominate One Lap of America race tracks, which so far is not happening.

The R&T editors discuss the provenance of the GTRs used in testing. Nissan provided 3 GTRs for testing to the automotive press. A white, a silver, and a Black one. The black one was damaged somehow and was kept in reserve for parts. All three cars are US spec, but are definitely pre-production, and are classified as "engineering test cars", which is the only way they are legal for registration and operation on US roads. Once their lifecycle is done (90 days), they go to the crusher. This explains the caveats by C&D, and MT regarding the performance, and the extraordinary dyno result produced by the silver car.

That SAME silver car, with Michigan plates, is the one now competing in the One Lap. It is therefore NOT a production car, and if the dyno is any indication, is making a lot more power than the production car's certified 480.

The R&T editor also said that this car is causing a major ruckus in the auto press and that some mags are rethinking their testing procedures with respect to manufacturer-supplied vehicles. Automobile reportedly declined to test the Nissan at this time because the cars supplied were not production cars. Expect that trend to be followed by others henceforward, he said

As far as acceleration, the z06 wins after the awd advantage is overcome.

0-60 z06 3.4 gtr 3.4
0-100 z06 8.0 gtr 8.6
0-120 z06 10.7 gtr 12.7

 

Hmmmm.....I guess the laws of physics do indeed apply to overweight Nissan's, too.

 

This is what Horst von Saurma from SportAuto had to say............

"With all the electronic aids the handling is absolutely perfect, the driver doens´t feel how the drive-by-wire system really works as the GT-R stay on track like on rails, always has grip, doesn´t lose control, higly computerized and a perfect racer for the street. A time less than 7:40 is pretty much optimistic, 7:50 shows the true potential of the car. And when the price stays at the announced level, it is a real bargain

 

Nope! Nissan has broken the laws of physics with their technology .

And people thought I was just being narrow-minded and biased when I said that there must be some "voo-doo magic" involved to break the laws of physics?!

 

I think the 5000miles of testing on the Ring might have been beneficial too.

 

The truth is slowly being seen by the public (although some are still making excuses).
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ie+page-2.html

 

Uh, so the car gets hurt in the standings by a poor autocross performance (where the driver admits that, alas, he's not an autocrosser)... and this is "the truth"? Er, about what?

 

I'm tired of talking about the GT-R. I'm going to freeze myself until it is out of production.

 

The R&T editors discuss the provenance of the GTRs used in testing. Nissan provided 3 GTRs for testing to the automotive press. A white, a silver, and a Black one. The black one was damaged somehow and was kept in reserve for parts. All three cars are US spec, but are definitely pre-production, and are classified as "engineering test cars", which is the only way they are legal for registration and operation on US roads. Once their lifecycle is done (90 days), they go to the crusher. This explains the caveats by C&D, and MT regarding the performance, and the extraordinary dyno result produced by the silver car.

That SAME silver car, with Michigan plates, is the one now competing in the One Lap. It is therefore NOT a production car, and if the dyno is any indication, is making a lot more power than the production car's certified 480.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckWxoLxiV6I

The Gallardo Superleggera beat the GTR on Tsubuka but yet the Gallardo Superleggera got 7:46 at Nurburgring.....Now why is this important on proving the GTR is full of crap?Well this track is regarded as a handling track(you probably played it on forza 2 or other games) and yet it beats the GTR in the thing that fanatics use to prove that the GTR lap time was no lie...BTW the Gallardo is AWD.

ok so this Gallardo Superleggera beats a GTR in handling ,ok we got that, so that must mean that the Gallardo Superleggera lacks the power...right?

Well no...the gallardo Superleggera(the one they tested in Nurburgring) has 522hp and weights in at 2926 lbs which comes to the lbs/hp ratio of 5.60 compared to the GTR(if we assume) 550hp at the crank and it weights 3836 without the side airbags which comes to 6.97 lbs/hp ratio....unfortenetly I don't have whp figures for the gallardo SL so I guess fanatics can use that as an argument.

So if it isn't handling or power then what is it......can it be that is was modified?


Now I know alot of you are going to say that the video is bs....I admit the driver driving the Gallardo SL is very good(I think he is a champion for some GT series in japan) but the guy driving the GTR is amazing aswell AKA Drift king (he beat a c6z06 and Nismo GTR with a 320hp sti) but even if it was the driver,their both so good that the lap times would practically be the same which still doesn't make sense since the GTR claims handling is how they got the nurburgring lap time but yet a 7:46 car kept up...come on!!!!!

So the GTR keeps up with the Carrera GT/Zonda and it beats so many other fantastic cars but yet it can't beat a 7:46 car in a handling track.

 

Suaveat69, stop before you hurt yourself. There have been no misleading facts or trickery involved. The GT-R is the greatest car on earth. If it's gotten beat by another car, it's because the driver let the other car get ahead. When you're the best, it's not nice to brag.



Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh .................. I think this is hilarious. So many people got so pumped up when NISSAN "claimed" such greatness, but now that the car is going out into the REAL WORLD, it can't seem to hold its own .

Who woulda thunk it!? I guess power-to-weight really does matter?! Well f*** me!!

Where's Russ99TA?! The GT-R needs someone to stick up for it right now. Seems it can't do it alone!!!

 

"the truth" is that nissan is putting out fake numbers.
I don't mean to come across as sour (sometimes it can be read that way) but if this car is so insanely fast, why isn't it coming out in tests. Even in this article (where the M3 is the overall winner, even though that isn't what we're discussing) they say they got a slow car and think it was at par handling wise with the M3 and 997 Turbo.

"[The M3's] handling, both on the track and public roads, matched the GT-R in our individual scoring"

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...st+page-4.html

Edit: Honestly, if Nissan was a little more subtle with their exageration (by just few seconds!) they probably would of had me in their boat.

 

Ah... good to see some justice finally coming to pass. The import-fawning media are starting to belatedly realize what utter fools they look like to regular folks... and are grudgingly taking action. It's good to see the GTR's fraudulence get exposed too

 

Imports owned again. Just the way it should be.

 

Yes, it did seem odd that the GTR had another poor showing in the comparison test in which it lost out to the M3. The stats weren't that impressive either.