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GM CEO Says No Chance For Pontiac G8 GXP Survival As Chevy, Caddy

Old Jun 5, 2009 | 09:42 AM
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A fantastic car, yes, but not a hot seller.
It was one of very few models (maybe even the only model) whose sales didn't/haven't suffered significantly in the last 6 months. At a steady ~1500/month, it may not be a "hot" seller, but there's something to be said for a steady seller!

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It hadn't been on the market long enough.
It also wasn't advertised enough.
Old Jun 5, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by JakeRobb
It was one of very few models (maybe even the only model) whose sales didn't/haven't suffered significantly in the last 6 months. At a steady ~1500/month, it may not be a "hot" seller, but there's something to be said for a steady seller!
and actually sales have been better lately. 2000-3000+ a month.
Old Jun 5, 2009 | 10:34 AM
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Just put the Middle Eastern Lumina nose on it, call it a Chevelle, and be done with it.
Old Jun 5, 2009 | 10:35 AM
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With pontiac dying the SLP 'firehawk' G8 will be a very low production car. Possibly lower then the 25 real firehawks.
They will be probably worth a small fortune in 20 years much like the 3rdgen firehawk, since it's the first time since then they've done serious mods.

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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 10:45 AM
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They would probably be better off just offering the 6.0L car with a manual. Cheaper and more CAFE friendly. Mileage on the GXP is terrible. I'm not sure how different the gearing is from the Camaro.

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Just put the Middle Eastern Lumina nose on it, call it a Chevelle, and be done with it.

Sounds good to me.
Old Jun 5, 2009 | 10:56 AM
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Sounds good to me.
Me too. Not crazy about a four door chevelle, but they did it to the Charger and people still buy those. At least they actually made 4 door Chevelles.
Old Jun 5, 2009 | 10:57 AM
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It also wasn't advertised enough.
I saw a ton of advertising for the G8. I think it was advertised plenty.
Old Jun 5, 2009 | 10:57 AM
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I think you may have hit it right there. I think most people would see it as just a 4 door Camaro.


That'd be me, not to mention a wagon version which would equal pure WIN!
Old Jun 5, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Z28x
and actually sales have been better lately. 2000-3000+ a month.
Great! I can't help but wonder if people are snatching them up now before Pontiac goes away.

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I saw a ton of advertising for the G8. I think it was advertised plenty.
I think I saw a few ads in car magazines, but that's not a broad enough demographic. I'm talking about prime time TV commercials or something.
Old Jun 5, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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I think I saw a few ads in car magazines, but that's not a broad enough demographic. I'm talking about prime time TV commercials or something.
TV Commercials is what I was talking about. Plus, they had a huge new years celebration on one of the channels that had the G8 all over it. I saw several ads for it.
Old Jun 5, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by HuJass
Just put the Middle Eastern Lumina nose on it, call it a Chevelle, and be done with it.

Chevrolet already has a Chevelle...
Old Jun 5, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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Chevrolet already has a Chevelle...
Go onnnn.......
Old Jun 5, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by shock6906
There's a market for sporty cars with four doors. For some people, four doors is a requirement, not a drawback.


LOL.

I started to say... The case could CERTAINLY be made to kill the Camaro in favor of the G8 based on the market alone.

Too similar... LOL.

I guess that's why Honda and Nissan only produce Altima and Accord sedans... Oh, wait....

A fantastic car, yes, but not a hot seller.
You're joking, right?

The G8 has SMASHED all expectations.

I'm aware of the percentages and the statistics and such. The bottom line is it wasn't a hot seller. It certainly is no Camaro. I think the car needed a better name to be a hot seller.
Apples to oranges.

1) The Camaro name alone gives that car an edge that the G8 cannot match.
2) Chevy can sell A LOT more cars that Buick/Pontiac/GMC
3) The Camaro hasn't even been ramped up and on the market for 2 months. Almost EVERY sell right now is a goodwill sell.

I don't know how you can consider it the "best mainstream sedan in its portfolio." Is it good, absolutely. But it is also large, expensive, and doesn't get great gas mileage, which are important factors for most buying sedans. Because you like it the most doesn't mean it is the best.
Based on value, performance, fuel economy... The only thing that comes close is a Malibu. Unless you want to pay for the CTS. And I'd venture to say that the G8 is on par or better as far as dynamics.

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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 95redLT1
Go onnnn.......
He considers the Camaro to be the Chevelle because it is so heavy...
Old Jun 6, 2009 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximum Bob
I think you may have hit it right there. I think most people would see it as just a 4 door Camaro.
I really doubt that. Most people are not "car" people and would never know.

Me I don't care. They look nothing like each other. Camaro has Zeta 1.5v anyhow.

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