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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 11:05 PM
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GM CEO Says No Chance For Pontiac G8 GXP Survival As Chevy, Caddy

Just says the GXP model, wonder if that means anything?

We know you wanted to see the fantastic Pontiac G8 GXP survive as something with a bowtie (Chevy Impala SS perhaps?), but the GM CEO Fritz Henderson's shuttered that door today in a web chat saying "no chance." So sad.
http://jalopnik.com/5279208/gm-ceo-s...as-chevy-caddy
Old Jun 4, 2009 | 11:22 PM
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You could drive a hole through that denial. Mostly because they said "G8 GXP"..but also GM has other options for Zeta, More than anything....all future GM vehicle programs will be aimed at making as much money per unit as possible. I could see it becoming a Buick..which would be more profitable. I could also see a similar car being made in the US along side the Camaro. The real issue is whether GM's new government keepers will allow them to make this kind of car.
Old Jun 5, 2009 | 01:24 AM
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What would really be the point of selling a GXP-like car along side the Camaro and as what? Wouldn't they be a little too similar?
Old Jun 5, 2009 | 05:09 AM
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I think you may have hit it right there. I think most people would see it as just a 4 door Camaro.
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 05:52 AM
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maybe not the GXP..but the GT???
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What about the provision made to the UAW that GM can not import vehicles not made in North America? They blocked GM from importing Chinese made vehicles, but I was under the impression this reached farther to all overseas imports. Anyone have an insight on this?
Old Jun 5, 2009 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by IZ28
What would really be the point of selling a GXP-like car along side the Camaro and as what? Wouldn't they be a little too similar?
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I think you may have hit it right there. I think most people would see it as just a 4 door Camaro.
There's a market for sporty cars with four doors. For some people, four doors is a requirement, not a drawback.
Old Jun 5, 2009 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SNEAKY NEIL
What about the provision made to the UAW that GM can not import vehicles not made in North America? They blocked GM from importing Chinese made vehicles, but I was under the impression this reached farther to all overseas imports. Anyone have an insight on this?
They can still import vehicles. A deal was made that the new small car (2011 Aveo replacement?) be made in the USA instead of Korea or China.

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I could also see a similar car being made in the US along side the Camaro. The real issue is whether GM's new government keepers will allow them to make this kind of car.
I don't think GM will be allowed to spend money developing an all new niche car. That is very low priority. Rebadging the car as a Chevy on the other hand is a lot simpler.

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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 08:02 AM
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Epic fail. First, I'm still pissed at GM for axing Pontiac. Second, I can't understand how they can completely dismiss such a fantastic car out of the line up. GM = aim+foot+shoot.
Old Jun 5, 2009 | 08:07 AM
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Epic fail. First, I'm still pissed at GM for axing Pontiac. Second, I can't understand how they can completely dismiss such a fantastic car out of the line up. GM = aim+foot+shoot.
A fantastic car, yes, but not a hot seller.
Old Jun 5, 2009 | 08:11 AM
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A fantastic car, yes, but not a hot seller.
It would have been a hot seller if not for the closing of Pontiac. It hadn't been on the market long enough.
Old Jun 5, 2009 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by super83Z
A fantastic car, yes, but not a hot seller.
As noted in another thread, its sales didn't fall nearly as much percentage-wise as most other cars when the market tanked. Plus marketing it as a Chevy would guarantee a huge increase in sales.

It really is hard to believe how GM could discontinue the best mainstream sedan in its portfolio, when it could carry on at virtually no additional cost. The only thing I can think of is that it costs too much to build and ship these cars, and therefore is losing too much money (especially as the US dollar falls).
Old Jun 5, 2009 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by R377
As noted in another thread, its sales didn't fall nearly as much percentage-wise as most other cars when the market tanked. Plus marketing it as a Chevy would guarantee a huge increase in sales.

It really is hard to believe how GM could discontinue the best mainstream sedan in its portfolio, when it could carry on at virtually no additional cost. The only thing I can think of is that it costs too much to build and ship these cars, and therefore is losing too much money (especially as the US dollar falls).
I'm aware of the percentages and the statistics and such. The bottom line is it wasn't a hot seller. It certainly is no Camaro. I think the car needed a better name to be a hot seller.
Old Jun 5, 2009 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by R377
As noted in another thread, its sales didn't fall nearly as much percentage-wise as most other cars when the market tanked. Plus marketing it as a Chevy would guarantee a huge increase in sales.

It really is hard to believe how GM could discontinue the best mainstream sedan in its portfolio, when it could carry on at virtually no additional cost. The only thing I can think of is that it costs too much to build and ship these cars, and therefore is losing too much money (especially as the US dollar falls).
I don't know how you can consider it the "best mainstream sedan in its portfolio." Is it good, absolutely. But it is also large, expensive, and doesn't get great gas mileage, which are important factors for most buying sedans. Because you like it the most doesn't mean it is the best.



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