So you're saying the 5th Gen has loads of room under the hood to work? If it was a "problem" on the 3rd and 4th Gens, it certainly hasn't gotten any better....

The rear suspension, you can't have both ways. If there are things on the 5th gen people aren't going to notice (like weight) then there are things about the solid axle most buyers wouldn't notice either. Before you go off, I prefer the IRS too.

By the way, my brother, my friend and I have owned 9 4th Gen F-bodies between the three of us, never had a T-top that leaked....

 

some of those things happened with age. wait till the car is say 5 years old then we will see how much better the 5th gen is.


for the record i liked the "huge" trunk opening. i've loaded tons of things that would never fit into a 5th gen or a trunked mustang. i also liked the seats.

 

I dunno I think changing the proverbial spark plugs are quite a bit easier on the 5th Gen then the 4th Gens. When you can put a roots blower on top of the engine or a centrifugal one next to it without the need for changing hoods I'd say it's spacious by today’s standards.

 

Guess we'll find out just how easy it is to change those plugs when they actually need to be changed.

Being able to put a blower on the top of the engine without changing hoods speaks more to the height of the firewall than anything else.

A lot of his other assertions (particularly the one about increased rear end strength in the 5th Gen) will take a little time to sort out. I am very interested to see how this 3900+ pound car holds up under repeated use at the strip with a hotter-than-stock LS3 and some stickies.

 

Have you seen under the hood of the 5th gen in person? Because I saw tons of room. Turbos will have plenty of room, headers and spark plug changes will be much much easier.

 

I drove it for about 20 minutes, but I crawled all over it for several hours. One thing I didn't remember to do was climb into the back seat for some personal experience there, so I'm going to withhold comment on that, except to say that it looks more or less the same as my 4th gen, but darker (which is understandable, since there's less glass).

Suffice it to say that I think I know the new Camaro as well or better than anybody else that doesn't already own one, and I think that qualifies me to comment.

They're predicting 50-60k per year. There are over 25,000 orders already, and they're less than three months into production. Over 10,000 of those orders have come in since SORP. I think it's 50k is a perfectly attainable target for MY2010, assuming it runs for roughly 12 months.

Link?

Regardless, a single voice in the crowd generally doesn't get heard. The community as a whole didn't support your request (which is an entirely separate issue than whether they agreed with you).

The cowl doesn't cover up nearly as much of the engine (only an inch or two IIRC; I'll check the pictures I took when I get home). I suspect that lifting the engine out from the top is a MUCH easier task than it is on the 4th gen, and I didn't see any reason to be concerned about stuff like that.

Looking down from above the engine, I could see large patches of the ground below. That's a good sign.

 

Are you saying that you think they won't be any easier to change than the 4th Gens plugs or won't be easy period? Have you changed the plugs on any of your 4th Gens? Slow day..

Well it is Zeta sedan archetecture and so if the rest of the car is large then it would stand to reason that the engine bay is as well.

 

Yes, I have. Nothing really "stood out" to me in terms of packaging one way or the other.

 

What I'm saying is exactly what I'm saying, is that we'll have to wait and see. It could very well be quicker/easier. A 4th Gen spark plug change is no picnic but people have found "tricks" and shortcuts that make the job a lot easier.

Right, but then again that is one of the gripes from certain people is it not?

 

Yes, I know. My statement was that they wouldn't sell 100K per year.

 

Could be.

I'd hate to see another "hiatus".

 

That pic doesn't do it justice. You could park a truck in there compared to a 4th gen.

 

50,000+ a year should be no problem even if the economy stays bad. We still have the Camaro convertible coming out and the Z28.

For those worried about plug changes, LS1 engines were much easier than LT1's. The LT1 was a nightmare.

 

I'm sure we could help to move more Camaro sheetmetal down here!

HINT: RHD Camaro TODAY!!!

 

What recall?