First Drive: The 2011 Chevy Caprice PPV - and some interesting info on the Tahoe PPV
12-14-2010, 09:17 AM
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First Drive: The 2011 Chevy Caprice PPV - and some interesting info on the Tahoe PPV
http://www.hendonpub.com/publication...tured+Articles
I guess that explains why NY State Police are going to almost all Tahoe now. I got a lot near my work in Albany where they store brand new police vehicles and it is currently full of 2WD Tahoes.
Caprices sounds great. I expect this car to take to a lot of sales away from Ford.
True “Large” Police Car
At 112 cubic feet, the Caprice PPV has a much larger interior than even the full-size 107.5 cf of the Ford CVPI. The amount of front seat hip room, critical for duty-belted officers, is the same for the Caprice as the Ford CVPI. The new Caprice has police-specific seats, which have been under development longer than the police package for the Caprice! The 17.4 cf Caprice trunk is a bit smaller than the 20.6 cf CVPI trunk. However, the Caprice’s full-size spare is below a flat load floor.
The 2011 model year will be a short one for the Caprice PPV. The 2011 Caprice PPV will come in two versions: the police package 9C1 and the detective retailappearing 9C3. Delivery of the detective Caprice 9C3 will be around April 2011, while the police patrol version Caprice 9C1 will be available around June 2011.
For 2011, the Caprice PPV will be powered by a 355 hp, 6.0L V8. This will have Active Fuel Management (cylinder deactivation) and be E85 FlexFuel compatible. For 2012, the Caprice PPV will come standard with the 3.6L “direct injection” V6 used in the Camaro and Cadillac CTS. The 6.0L V8 will be an option in 2012.
GM will continue to produce the current police Impala “for several years.” It will remain a V6-powered FWD sedan and the police vehicle with lowest initial cost available. GM will also continue to produce the current Tahoe indefinitely. It is scheduled to be restyled “in a few years.”
With the duty cycle properly extended to 150K miles and the current residual values, the Tahoe PPV has the lowest total lifecycle cost of any police package vehicle. The Tahoe remains a body-on-truck-chassis, full-size SUV powered by the 320 hp, 5.3L V8. The Tahoe comes as a police package 2WD and as a non-pursuit, special service package 4x4.
At 112 cubic feet, the Caprice PPV has a much larger interior than even the full-size 107.5 cf of the Ford CVPI. The amount of front seat hip room, critical for duty-belted officers, is the same for the Caprice as the Ford CVPI. The new Caprice has police-specific seats, which have been under development longer than the police package for the Caprice! The 17.4 cf Caprice trunk is a bit smaller than the 20.6 cf CVPI trunk. However, the Caprice’s full-size spare is below a flat load floor.
The 2011 model year will be a short one for the Caprice PPV. The 2011 Caprice PPV will come in two versions: the police package 9C1 and the detective retailappearing 9C3. Delivery of the detective Caprice 9C3 will be around April 2011, while the police patrol version Caprice 9C1 will be available around June 2011.
For 2011, the Caprice PPV will be powered by a 355 hp, 6.0L V8. This will have Active Fuel Management (cylinder deactivation) and be E85 FlexFuel compatible. For 2012, the Caprice PPV will come standard with the 3.6L “direct injection” V6 used in the Camaro and Cadillac CTS. The 6.0L V8 will be an option in 2012.
GM will continue to produce the current police Impala “for several years.” It will remain a V6-powered FWD sedan and the police vehicle with lowest initial cost available. GM will also continue to produce the current Tahoe indefinitely. It is scheduled to be restyled “in a few years.”
With the duty cycle properly extended to 150K miles and the current residual values, the Tahoe PPV has the lowest total lifecycle cost of any police package vehicle. The Tahoe remains a body-on-truck-chassis, full-size SUV powered by the 320 hp, 5.3L V8. The Tahoe comes as a police package 2WD and as a non-pursuit, special service package 4x4.
Caprices sounds great. I expect this car to take to a lot of sales away from Ford.
12-14-2010, 01:58 PM
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Re: First Drive: The 2011 Chevy Caprice PPV - and some interesting info on the Tahoe
What the hell is the point of having a 2WD Tahoe in NY where snow is very common? I don't even know how the police get around in their Crown Vics and Chargers.
12-14-2010, 02:18 PM
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The 2WD Tahoe is pursuit rated, capable of maintaining something like 126 MPH- handles pretty good for a big truck. Large, roomy, quiet, safe. Everything you want in a work vehicle. The 4WD is more capable off-road, but not pursuit-rated. Perfect of border patrols, environmental police, etc.
Ever drive one? Pretty eye-opening.
Ever drive one? Pretty eye-opening.
12-14-2010, 02:34 PM
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I am sure they are great vehicles in the rain and dry conditions. I am just curious as to what they do with them with any significant snowfall. A 2WD front heavy truck just doesn't seem like a good idea.
12-14-2010, 02:56 PM
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I see a lot of 2WD Tahoes. They can't be any worse in the snow than any other 2WD car.
2WD have black wheels, while the 4x4 has Silver.
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I am starting to like reading stuff like this more and more
I want to know how I can get my hands on a retired 4wd Tahoe that isn't completely used up. Anyone know?
I want to know how I can get my hands on a retired 4wd Tahoe that isn't completely used up. Anyone know?
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Re: First Drive: The 2011 Chevy Caprice PPV - and some interesting info on the Tahoe
I lived in the hilly suburbs of Pittsburgh Pennsylvania, and drove in, through, and around them.
I drove that truck all winter the last year I was in High School.
It was 2 wheel drive.
It's pretty funny to hear people nowadays worry and wonder in utter and stupendous amazement that anything that isn't front wheel drive, 4 wheel drive, or AWD can actually do anything in the snow outside of get buried by it.
Get real guys... I was a 17 year old, and I got around in the heavy stuff with no problem.
Guess what else? My mom used to drive in the stuff annually before she had a stroke last year in her RWD cars.
My baby sister (though nowhere near a baby anymore) drove in the stuff in highschool and in college over in Indiana Pa.
How, you may ask???
It's a miracle of modern engineering that ranks up there with nuclear physics and "Quatium Mathmathics" that's called....... "A pair of snow tires" and the amazing feat and lost art that very few people today actually possess that's called......."Knowing how to actually drive"!!!!
GEEE!!!....we have become a bunch of driving whusses the past 20-30 years, haven't we?
Hell... My '97 Z28 had traction control...... and I drove it to and then around Reno..... in the snow.... with all season tires.
Pansy.
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12-15-2010, 03:39 PM
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Sorry, but I wouldn't want to see a Tahoe at 140 MPH. In fact, if I was an officer the last thing I would want as a pursuit vehicle is a full-size SUV. I understand the other advantages but in situations where speed and handling is at a premium, no thanks.
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Re: First Drive: The 2011 Chevy Caprice PPV - and some interesting info on the Tahoe
12-15-2010, 04:10 PM
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My 1st vehicle was a eye melting yellow 1973 Ford F100 Ranger with a 390 2 barrel carb... and 2 wheel drive.
I lived in the hilly suburbs of Pittsburgh Pennsylvania, and drove in, through, and around them.
I drove that truck all winter the last year I was in High School.
It was 2 wheel drive.
It's pretty funny to hear people nowadays worry and wonder in utter and stupendous amazement that anything that isn't front wheel drive, 4 wheel drive, or AWD can actually do anything in the snow outside of get buried by it.
Get real guys... I was a 17 year old, and I got around in the heavy stuff with no problem.
Guess what else? My mom used to drive in the stuff annually before she had a stroke last year in her RWD cars.
My baby sister (though nowhere near a baby anymore) drove in the stuff in highschool and in college over in Indiana Pa.
How, you may ask???
It's a miracle of modern engineering that ranks up there with nuclear physics and "Quatium Mathmathics" that's called....... "A pair of snow tires" and the amazing feat and lost art that very few people today actually possess that's called......."Knowing how to actually drive"!!!!
GEEE!!!....we have become a bunch of driving whusses the past 20-30 years, haven't we?
Hell... My '97 Z28 had traction control...... and I drove it to and then around Reno..... in the snow.... with all season tires.
Pansy.
I lived in the hilly suburbs of Pittsburgh Pennsylvania, and drove in, through, and around them.
I drove that truck all winter the last year I was in High School.
It was 2 wheel drive.
It's pretty funny to hear people nowadays worry and wonder in utter and stupendous amazement that anything that isn't front wheel drive, 4 wheel drive, or AWD can actually do anything in the snow outside of get buried by it.
Get real guys... I was a 17 year old, and I got around in the heavy stuff with no problem.
Guess what else? My mom used to drive in the stuff annually before she had a stroke last year in her RWD cars.
My baby sister (though nowhere near a baby anymore) drove in the stuff in highschool and in college over in Indiana Pa.
How, you may ask???
It's a miracle of modern engineering that ranks up there with nuclear physics and "Quatium Mathmathics" that's called....... "A pair of snow tires" and the amazing feat and lost art that very few people today actually possess that's called......."Knowing how to actually drive"!!!!
GEEE!!!....we have become a bunch of driving whusses the past 20-30 years, haven't we?
Hell... My '97 Z28 had traction control...... and I drove it to and then around Reno..... in the snow.... with all season tires.
Pansy.
And for the record, my GTO has snow tires on it right now. Pansy.
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12-15-2010, 04:14 PM
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That said, they do teach cops how to drive at the academy. Also, if you spent all day every day in a car (including all winter), you'd get pretty good at it if you wanted to.
12-15-2010, 06:53 PM
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It's pretty funny to hear people nowadays worry and wonder in utter and stupendous amazement that anything that isn't front wheel drive, 4 wheel drive, or AWD can actually do anything in the snow outside of get buried by it.
Get real guys... I was a 17 year old, and I got around in the heavy stuff with no problem.
Guess what else? My mom used to drive in the stuff annually before she had a stroke last year in her RWD cars.
My baby sister (though nowhere near a baby anymore) drove in the stuff in highschool and in college over in Indiana Pa.
How, you may ask???
It's a miracle of modern engineering that ranks up there with nuclear physics and "Quatium Mathmathics" that's called....... "A pair of snow tires" and the amazing feat and lost art that very few people today actually possess that's called......."Knowing how to actually drive"!!!!
GEEE!!!....we have become a bunch of driving whusses the past 20-30 years, haven't we?
Hell... My '97 Z28 had traction control...... and I drove it to and then around Reno..... in the snow.... with all season tires.
Pansy.
Get real guys... I was a 17 year old, and I got around in the heavy stuff with no problem.
Guess what else? My mom used to drive in the stuff annually before she had a stroke last year in her RWD cars.
My baby sister (though nowhere near a baby anymore) drove in the stuff in highschool and in college over in Indiana Pa.
How, you may ask???
It's a miracle of modern engineering that ranks up there with nuclear physics and "Quatium Mathmathics" that's called....... "A pair of snow tires" and the amazing feat and lost art that very few people today actually possess that's called......."Knowing how to actually drive"!!!!
GEEE!!!....we have become a bunch of driving whusses the past 20-30 years, haven't we?
Hell... My '97 Z28 had traction control...... and I drove it to and then around Reno..... in the snow.... with all season tires.
Pansy.