Yes.


I've heard plenty of people describe it as a "cheaper Sigma" also.......all of them from the internet.


At any rate, as I posted in a previous thread, things are undergoing a major review right now. The one thing that we can depend on are delays for NA.

 

Yeah, but here in NA...you may get some GM, beancounting, "wiz-kids"......who figure, struts/semi-trailing arm for Camaro is great....since no one is complaining about Mustang's strut/live rear axle.

 

I think that says it all. We can state with virtual certainty that GM's 2008/2009 Zeta-platform cars won't be the equals of Daimler-Chrysler's 2005/2006 LX-platform cars.

 

Damn these P.O.S. Zeta cars that noone has seen or driven!!!

What total GARBAGE they must be!!

 

I agree with this. I think sometimes because we're on a future vehicle discussion board we want to form opinions on these cars much too quickly based on tidbits we "might" know about them. I'm going to wait and see.

 

Better to make your opinion known on something that is under consideration.....BEFORE IT'S APPROVED AND TOO LATE, than to wait and cry about it when it IS too late.

 

Saying things like the Zeta platform will not be the equal to the DCX platform is pure speculation.... not an opinion.

 

SO bottom line...

Chevy gets a Monte Carlo with V6 and mid level V8
Pontiac continues with GTO and the premium V8
Buick continues near luxury


NO CAMARO.

Ol' redplanet gets it WRONG AGAIN.

 

I'm kinda confused, why is everyone taking this info seriously??

 

Is that your opinion? Or are you speculating?

 

Not if Camaro isn't going to be on Zeta.

 

No, what I said is a FACT.

Unless you have driven a completed Zeta car, you can not say that it is inferior to the DCX LX platform... that is pure speculation. To form an opinion, you'd have to drive the completed cars.

And even if you had, there can be a lot of different variants on the driving characteristics of a given platform. For example, a base Corvette doesn't handle like a Z51, which doesn't handle like a Z06, which doesn't handle like a magnetic ride optioned car...

So, in short, just because, in your opinion (it applies here since you have driven both cars (GTO and 300)), the current GTO doesn't handle the way you feel would be appropriate for a future Camaro, that doesn't mean that A) the current GTO platform couldn't be set up to perform in an appropriate fashion, and B) that the Zeta platform (whether it is an altered Sigma, and altered Holden V, or something altogether different) wouldn't be able to do this either...

 

Gee Darth, are you saying that it's not possible for me to form an opinion based on what I know? And do you really know what I know...and how it leads me to form an opinion?

I've never had a drink of gasoline before....but my opinion is, I wouldn't like it.
I've never brought Queen Latifa home for a slumber party....but my opinion is that my wife would probably be pissed.

See, I can form opinions based on what I know....whether I've proven the hypothesis or not.

As I'm sure you're aware, I'm very passionate about how I feel Camaro should or should not be.
Some people may not be as passionate as me about Camaro. They may feel uncomfortable being as vocal about it as I sometimes am.

That's fair, and I won't slam anyone for not feeling the same way I do.
But patiently waiting around for 4 or 5 years to see what happens before I give my opinion, just ain't gonna happen.......sorry.

 

And you'll have to wait until 2009.

DCX was putting the finishing touches on the LX cars while GM was wasting time and money on rehashed W-bodies, G-bodies and a half-baked Australian "GTO." As usual, GM is half-a-decade late and still doesn't have a prayer of catching up.

However, I do expect the Zeta platform cars to positively effect GM's profits in the 3rd quarter of 2010.

 

Personally I am bery excited to hear that the Monte Carlo will go back to RWD!! It's about time too. I was realy hpoing that when the GTO came over that the Monte would pawn off it right away, but I guess its doing what GM thinks it needs to do.

Maybe FWD vehicles are gonna start dwindling away!!!! (doubt it though)

And for you guys unhappy about the "Camaro" name coment.. I didn't think GM was allowed to mention that name yet??