Has a Camaro been faster than the Vette in the last 25 years? No......... and it ain't ever gonna happen.

Guess what? The Cobra stang was faster than the Vette in '03/'04.
The GT500 will thump the C6 even worse.
Quite a conundrum, isn't it?

 

Does this mean there won't be a top Camaro faster than a base Vette? NO. Like what someone else said, the Z06 has given the Camaro some breathing room.

Irrelevant. There has never been a scenario in which there was a 12 second GT500/Vette/Camaro being produced at the same time. So we all really don't know what GM might do.

 

Look. It boils down to dollars.

There's only 2 ways I can see a sane marketing strategy for a Camaro Z/28 that'll outrun a base C6 and run even or better with the GT500.

1) The Z/28 is more expensive than the Vette.
2) The Z/28 is a limited edition, gets marked up by dealers, and still ends up more expensive than the Vette.

 

In a word - NO.
There are so many other things that come into play besides HP and weight.

GEARING anyone?

Look how a 305hp Mach 1 handles a 335hp F4 in the 1/4.

 

whu is it no one on the internet can spell "lose" ?
Loose means--too big--lose means you lost (had to vent about that )

 

Where's that word in MY post?!?!
On the other hand, "whu" has a problem with it anyways!

I'm usually fairly literate and author my posts with reasonable diction.

Flame-gun-trigger-happy or what!

 

Let me buy you a drink at SEMA.

 

Mach1's are quick but they aint "handleing" a ls1 in the 1/4 even with stock gears. They can get close but with even drivers the ls1 has the clear advantage and trap speeds.

 

There are cases where stock LS1 Camaros have been faster in the 1/4 mile than stock C5 Vettes. By only a few tenths, but it has happened.

Also remeber that the 91 and 92 Firehawks were faster than those year's Vettes. Lets not forget the 89 Turbo Trans Am either.

 

I'm afraid the next camaro will be way over priced.A 05' GTO is $38,000 at home. If some one wants the camaro to be quicker than the GT500....let the customer go to the aftermarket companies (Example: SLP). GM needs to give us a solid platform that's affordable. The mustang has always been the poor man's hot rod. That's why it out sold the camaro...except one or two years.

 

man, you can get them all day long for $30,293 ++ in Denver for the Six speed version.Also, Suss Pontiac has 3 or 4 2004's they are closing out at 26k.

 

Somebody correct me if I am wrong, as I was not alive at this time.

My Uncle owns a 79' Trans Am. Was fully loaded and bought brand new, and he still owns it. He said the Corvette that year was a dog, and the Firebird/Trans Am top models that you could get of that year were the fastest cars of that time.

Anyways, I can see a Camaro with 25-50 less RATED hp, that could handle it on the track. But I really could not see myself buying a top model Camaro, I think the middle model would interest me more. I "ended up" with a Z28, and feel it as the middle model was what I would have purchased if I was shopping for an LS1 car.

 

No, I'm well aware of the #'s breakdown, but it's about preception. What do the rags test? Performance models.

Unfortunately, the Camaro name cannot compete with the Mustang legend so in order to have a shot to survive long term it has to do everything better at a better price. Using F4 as an example, the top of the line SS's were priced beyond what the target buyer could afford.

 

We need a Camaro first.....

 

Yeah, the base Corvette was pretty doggie in '79. A Trans Am with a T/A 6.6 (4 speed only) and WS6 suspension, would easily beat it. The optional L-82 Corvette would have rough parity with a T/A 6.6 Trans Am.