In 1969, Corvette started at $4718. The ZL1 Camaro (factory made ) was a $4160 option ( ) on top of a $2786 Camaro sports coupe.

Loaded Camaro SS 396s, though typically in the mid-upper 3000 range, could reach as high as $4500 with every avalible option.



http://www.gearheadracing.com/Refere...9ZL1Camaro.htm

 

Bottom line on this thread is

If you're waiting for the Camaro, a car that won't debut till 2007 as an '08 model to have a hotter motor than the standard C6 which will STILL be running a 6.0 LS2, you're in for one hell of a wait and certainly a big disappointment.

 

To put that into 2004 money for some people, it's like a $27,860 Camaro Z28 having an optional 427 ZL1 engine package for an extra $41,600 bringing the Camaro ZL1 total to $69,460 I love the Camaro but for that money I'd Lingenfelter TT Vette or find another $10K I'd get a Viper.

I don't think anything like this will ever happen with the Camaro again. and I though the Cobra R was a lot of money

 

I beg to differ. Look at the current popularity of sport compacts. One of the main reasons they are popular is because they are affordable.

Most of the extra equipment on the SS was performance related (at least perceived to be), not luxury. You could not get a Z28 without power windows, locks, upgraded stereo, leather steering wheel, power seats, etc. These are all luxury items.

But if you are talking a 23,000 to a 28,000 car, it can make a big difference. When I was last in the market for a new car, I couldn't afford a Z28. So instead, I purchased a stripped down Silverado for $18k. It's the same reason why I can't buy a GTO right now. It's too much money for me. There are dozens of people on this site alone that are waiting for the incentives to increase.

There is a broad range of budgets out there. I would have bought a $480/month Z28, but MY wife would have killed ME. Instead I paid $370/month for my Silverado. Others may go buy a Mustang or a Magnum. I think GM would gain many more customers than it would lose (or customers that would choose a decontented car over a loaded one).

Corvettes are a different target audience than Camaros. Camaros are supposed to be the "poor man's corvette". However, if the "poor man" can't afford it, then how can he buy it?

One of the main reasons that manufacturers are going to option packages is because it simplifies the build process. There are less permutations to track.

I don't mean to offend or flame you, I just think there is room for a non-luxury, high performance Camaro.

 

Assumptions, assumptions.............................

 

That would be a steal when compared to the $85,000 Berger/Dick Harrell Camaro.

http://www.bergerchevrolet.com/berge...stock=Harrell1

 

...and that Cadillac would be getting their chassis?

 

Hey, Caddy seemed to foot most of the bill for the new C6 chassis, and now they can offer a much better Corvette for 500 cheaper then last years model! Now thats awesome!

 

I suppose there always could be a market for $45000 Camaros.

 

Why would it need to cost $45,000?

 

About what a 500 HP 2006 Mustang Cobra might cost?

 

Thank you. Of course there is no market for a 45k Camaro...but if you thinka 500hp is some how gunna be the same price as the last Cobra, I think your all crazy.
If there is a hi-po car, someone will buy it. Someone spent all that money on thoes ZL1 4th gens...Im sure someone will pay half that to get 450+hp.

 

I'm in a repenting mood today, I got owned at LS1tech and it has been a while since I visited here. Not realizing I got OWNED big time by guionM...

I think you're right. I think I was taking to different positions. However, in reference to the Charger, it shouldn't compete with the Corvette because quite frankly C&D rendering looks like that nether region I mentioned where sticks get stuck...

I agree, the Corvette is one heck of a performer for a mere 40 somethin thousand. In fact, I think if the new Camaro comes out, some sales could possibly be lost to used C6 Corvette buyers...depending on how much the used ones go for in 4 or so years. I might be one of them. Or hell, maybe I'll just buy both.

Ya'll are a bunch of old geezers, always saving up money and doing things based on reason instead of being impulsive... No I agree, that's definitely the way to go. But why can't 25 year olds buy a 30,000 dollar car, or a version of that 30,000 dollar car? The market needs to be very LARGE. I've stated on here before that we need a base V6, a super/turbo charged V6 for an AWD RS (It does say Rally sport, a base V8, and a Hi Po V8. That should cover mustangs, DMC, Subaru/Mitsubishi/NeonNeonNeon. What the Camaro line can't handle, leave to the Corvette. The Cobras and such I assume will be in the Vette Price range.

Also, the horsepower wars... Just to comment on my justification for HP numbers. Around here, no one gives a crap about what your car weighs, it's solely HP, most don't even care about torque. I forget I'm talking to a bunch of enthusiasts sometimes. I know the Corvette can whip up on the Viper with 100 less hp, but a new Viper is in development. Now the 525 hp miata is a damn good idea... JUST KIDDING. With that much HP, it needs to be a little heavier to handle all that power. Sorry for bein a jerk.

SUMMARY: Got owned, realized my problems, tried to fix them.

 

Because it'll be sitting right next to a $43K Vette in the Chevy dealer's showroom.

 

Yup they'll sell em alright and makes ton's o money doing it.



Mid '40s. Everybody knows it. Nobody's complaining.