I dont see why you cant believe it. The recent trend in performance cars has been up and up and up in terms of horsepower. The Corvette Z06 has lots of stiff competition as far as the Viper and GT go. Both of those cars have 500+ horsepower, why cant the Z06? Granted, 575 is a lot, but, it is VERY possible for GM to do that, especially with a 427. I mean, just look at all the new technology that is coming out of the car industry. GM has a cylinder head with 3v's using pushrod technology, they got displacement on deman, which helps gas mileage, they got variable cam timing and tons of other stuff which helps make power, all while being cleaner and more efficent. I really hope it makes that power cuz then the base vette will get a power increase and then the new Camaro will have 400hp or darn close!!!

 

I'm not saying that it isn't POSSIBLE for them to do it. I'm just saying they won't

And as far as DOD goes. They wouldn't put it one the BASE Corvette because it sounded like a four cylinder. Why are they going to put it on a limited production 'Vette marketed towards people that have MUCH higher standards than base 'Vette buyers?

My position stands, they aren't going to do it to the Z06 UNLESS they direct the Z06 into a MUCH higher price range, therefore a different market. Any Z06 under $70K will not have 575HP in the next 3 years. I think this is very probable for the Blue Devil that we've been hearing about...

 

I dont understand.
The same people that think its very possible that a 500+hp Mustang will show up are the same people that dismiss the idea of a 500+hp Corvette? Whats wrong with that picture?

 

I didn't dismiss a 500HP 'Vette, I dismissed a 575 HP Z06

 

But you can say to me that its a possiblity that the next mustang will make over 500hp, but the Vette Z06 wont?

 

The next top Mustang, yes. If their going to universalize this GT/Lightning motor thing, then definately, common sense tells me so. If it doesn't get the same motor, then no, I wouldn't think they'd jump over 100 HP in 2 years...

575 HP is exotic car range right now. GM could offer a 575 HP car at $150K and it would be a relative bargain. I don't think it would be a financial benefit (GM's biggest motivator ) for them to offer it at less than $70K....just my opinion.... Thats a LOT of engineering to make a car capable of handling that kind of power, on top of the cost to make the car alreaddy...

I'm just going to let it go... in 2 years I'll be back to say "told ya so."

 

so let me get this strait

550hp GT motor in a Mustang=yes

a 575hp motor in a Corvette=not possible because its GM.

its probably 10x cheaper to make tha 7.0 motor then it is to make that GT motor.

Just making sure I get this strait. It doesnt matter 2 years from now, its your mentality now that is what has me thinking. How a Corvette, American sports car wont get an engine as powerful as the Mustang.

 

Your not understanding what I'm saying dude....a Z06, under $70K will not get 575 HP. Could a Boss Mustang get 500 HP? I don't see why not, but its going to cost considerably more than $50K.

I think the top dog Corvette could get more than 575 HP, but its not going to be a Z06 in its current nature. I don't know how this isn't getting through to you?

 

Your not getting me. I dont understand how you can think that there is a strong possiblity that the Mustang will get more HP then the Corvette? Will the Z06 get 575hp? Probably not, but could it? Yeah. Remember that Team Corvette will pretty much get anything they want. Its the Corvette, its the Halo car for not only Chevy, but for GM.

What Im staying is, if there is a possiblity that the Mustang can make 550hp, the Corvette can make 575.
I agree that if the Mustang gets the GT motor, it will cost more then 50k.

 

Like I said...if the Z06 gets 575 HP, it won't be in its current market. It will cost much more and will seek buyers in a completely different arena. Therefore, not a Z06 IMHO....

 

But a 550hp, possibly 60k Cobra Mustang will be right in its current market? I dont understand your logic. A Corvette can jump 175hp and be totaly insane, but the Mustang can jump 250hp(almost double the output of the GT) and still be in the target market?

I will leave it at this. If its possible that the Mustang gets the 550hp GT motor, then its even more possible that the Z06 gets a 575hp engine, not the other way around.

 

The base Vette has gone from a 300HP LT1 to a 425hp+/- LS2 and stayed in the same market.

While I agree that 575hp seems like a big jump, I still think it is possible. The next Z06 was expected to come in at 500HP and around/under $60K. The 7.0L doesn't cost anymore to make than the 6.4L and as long as the drivetrain can handle the extra 75hp there really is not extra cost.

 

I don't see 575hp from a Z06 either. Thats a huge jump from the base Vettes 400hp rating. It also contradicts the 500hp we've been hearing for so long.

And they certaily wouldn't sell he car for cheap. They would sell the car for as much money as they can. When you create a high demand product and produce in small numbers you increase the price. I took economics and did manage to grasp something form it.

 

Meccadeth, let me try to explain it to him.

Al, read very carefully what I'm typing here. First, the Mustang will most likely get a detuned 500 hp motor, not 550 hp. It wouldn't be a 250 hp jump. The current Cobra is making an advertised 390 hp. That's only 110 hp more. It very well could have 3V instead of 4V heads to save money. The 3V VCT heads currently flow the same at the non-VCT 4V heads. Irregardless, IF, that's IF, the 500 hp Mustang comes in at $60,000 you have to understand that nearly 2x (DOUBLE) what the current Cobra costs. It's quite possible that the extra $25,000 could be the GT engine with some suspension goodies thrown in too.

Second, the current Cobra already makes more power than the Z06. Right now you're thinking that the Cobra only makes 390 hp and the Corvette Z06 makes 405 hp. That's their factory rated numbers. Dyno numbers clearly show the Cobra to be making more hp. So you see, it's not a big deal that a Mustang makes more power than a Z06 Vette. Besides, these are two different class vehicles.

Third, Meccadeth has tried to tell you over and over that a 575 hp Vette wouldn't be a Z06. Why? Because a 575 hp Vette would take chassis, engine and suspension modifications that would drive its cost up. You could easily double the price on that car and you have a $120,000 exotic car that performs like the Ford GT which is stickered at $139,000. The Z06 is the affordable "race car" Vette. It's going to cost around $60,000.

I think the biggest issue you have is getting past the possibility that a Ford Mustang could have (and currently does) more power than the Vette.

 

If the Z06 is $70K+ I doubt it is because of extra cost to build. The chassis, brakes, and suspension will be built for 500hp+ that extra 15% of power shouldn't make that much of a difference. Look at how little cost went up over the C5 base to Z06 and that was a 15% power jump.

I don't think the Z06 will be more than $15,000 over the base $45K Vette, but who knows what the bean counters will do.