Buickman will call for Wagoner's ouster at shareholder's meeting.
Re: Buickman will call for Wagoner's ouster at shareholder's meeting.
I don't dislike the guy, but he IS a bean counter. That's OK, bean counters should be Chairman. Problem is, he's given up sooooo many beans. If your pticher is giving it up inning after inning, don't you look to the bullpen?
Re: Buickman will call for Wagoner's ouster at shareholder's meeting.
Originally Posted by Buickman
I don't dislike the guy, but he IS a bean counter. That's OK, bean counters should be Chairman. Problem is, he's given up sooooo many beans. If your pticher is giving it up inning after inning, don't you look to the bullpen?
Your vendeta is blinding you like a spotlight in a deer's eyes.
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Excuse me, but GRW became head of North American Operations in 1994, President and COO in 1998, CEO in 2000, and Chairman in 2003. I don't think I'm mistaken when saying that is ample opportunity. You misunderstood my reference to baseball. He doesn't return to the bullpen, that's where the fresh pitchers are. It's time for the showers.
Re: Buickman will call for Wagoner's ouster at shareholder's meeting.
Originally Posted by Buickman
However, we're in danger of losing Buick and Pontiac due to poor business judgement.
Buickman
Buickman
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Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me
You don't put him into the bullpen till you see what his pitches do in the market. See what kinds of changes he has made and then you can castrate him. Rick inherited a VERY backwards system and he has made progress on straightening him out.
Your vendeta is blinding you like a spotlight in a deer's eyes.
Your vendeta is blinding you like a spotlight in a deer's eyes.
I think it's not so much the vendeta so much as a fault that plagues many salesmen, that I have met. Put simply, they don't listen. They just talk. When you talk to them, they are simply busy thinking of their next response.
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It's a shame, but you're right. Perhaps some states will begin liscensing salespeople like Realtors. Kind of funny, massage therapists are regulated, but auto salesman have no Code of Ethics or required professional standards. A truly good salesperson listens to your needs, and makes you feel like you are his, or her, only client at that time. Such behavior not only closes deals, but also generates referrals and repeat business.
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Packing the Buick and heading East to Wilmington. Thanks to everyone for your honest crititcism. See Sunday's Detroit News and on Tuesday visit www.GeneralWatch.com
Have a Great Weekend!
Jim
Have a Great Weekend!
Jim
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Well, I do wish you the best of luck. Despite peoples varying viewpoints (myself included
) of what you and your views are trying to accomplish, I give you credit for trying to at least do something.
Does anybody think we will hear the C-Word at this meeting???
) of what you and your views are trying to accomplish, I give you credit for trying to at least do something. Does anybody think we will hear the C-Word at this meeting???
Re: Buickman will call for Wagoner's ouster at shareholder's meeting.
Originally Posted by Buickman
Excuse me, but GRW became head of North American Operations in 1994, President and COO in 1998, CEO in 2000, and Chairman in 2003. I don't think I'm mistaken when saying that is ample opportunity. You misunderstood my reference to baseball. He doesn't return to the bullpen, that's where the fresh pitchers are. It's time for the showers.
Yet, EVERYTHING since 1994 is his fault.
...............uh, ok.
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Let's see, under Wags we lost, Olds, Delphi, Defense Electronics, American Axle, EDS, Hughes, Detroit Diesel, Light Armored Vehicles, Electromotive, Warren Real Estate and replaced with Saab, Daewoo, Shanghai, No Innovative Buicks, FIAT, Disastrous marketing, Record Recalls, Huge Long Term Debt, Diminished Profits, Junk Bonds.The stock is down how much this year? Anyone who tries to defend this record has no business on this site. Go read the comics, you just don't understand reality.
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Re: Buickman will call for Wagoner's ouster at shareholder's meeting.
Originally Posted by Buickman
Anyone who tries to defend this record has no business on this site. Go read the comics, you just don't understand reality.
Forgive me but in our email exchange it was never mentioned exactly how many global corporations you have chaired or advised back to dominant status.
However I do know something has been mentioned about you having sold a lot of Buicks.
Enough already, you have made your viewpoint quite clear and the horse is dead. Your problem here seems to be that not everyone (anyone?) agrees with you.
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You're right, I've never run a multi-national corporation, don't care to. I'm not exactly sure who should be running GM, nut I real sure who shouldn't be. Disagreement OK, or even a good argument. So far haven't heard why Wags is worth keeping. If you believe it, convince me. I'm all ears.
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Re: Buickman will call for Wagoner's ouster at shareholder's meeting.
Terry Bradshaw won 4 Super Bowls.... was Super Bowl MVP twice.
He started of real slow.... took several years before he played well
Bill Bellichek, had a lousy run in Cleveland. look what he has done with New England.
Sometimes it's not always the head guy on or off the field... sometimes things have to be built up around him.
Now, I am not one who thinks all is perfect at GM, but I am not going to lay it all on one man's shoulders.
He started of real slow.... took several years before he played well
Bill Bellichek, had a lousy run in Cleveland. look what he has done with New England.
Sometimes it's not always the head guy on or off the field... sometimes things have to be built up around him.
Now, I am not one who thinks all is perfect at GM, but I am not going to lay it all on one man's shoulders.


