LOL

 

Just something to ponder on this subject.

Crash standards will soon become more stringent. That means cars will become heavier. Engineers will come under extreme pressure to hold weight down. The few bucks saved on a stamped steel control arm over an alloy one, will be small potatoes in the battle to trim pounds.

 

If they were a year out they'd have probably begun the initial parts of the assembly plant conversion, not to mention the fact that prototype and preproduction cars have not been seen by anyone.

Either way, all this secrecy is going to do nothing but hurt them. Without revealing anything about the car other than "we're working on a new Mustang" ford scoured enthusiasts (and non-enthusiasts) from all over the US and worked hard to deliver on what everyone wanted. They got close enough to achieve the sales success they currently have. GM on the other hand is saying "Camaro? We ain't got no stinkin' Camaro" and if they are in fact working on it secretly, they are just going to spring it on us in the patented GM "here it is take it or leave it" fashion.

 

There also would be component suppliers tooling up for production, having already gone through quoting process full design validation process. That means that at least several hundred companies would be in the process of spending tens of millions of dollars and hundred of thousands of man-hours on this project. I'm not saying it's not happening, I'm just suggesting that if it is happeniing, then a lot of people know about it and are somehow keeping quiet. That strikes me as unlikely.

 

I think the point is that the Camaro could be already done, but that GM needs to push the button to get the gears in motion.
From what is out there, it seems that chassis, powertrain, and design as well as location and logistics are set or being set now.

 

I recall alot of people here ******* the Mustangs D2C platform for having struts instead of the SLA. All I have to say is....


I'll be the first to say.... "This new Camaro is going to handle for ***". Without even driving it.

I am wondering if a stick axle is out of the question...

::Sorry I just HAD to::

 

Do you want it to be?

 

For the sake of keeping the base MSRP down. Make IRS an option.

 

I'd bet it costs more to engineer and assemble a car with both live axle and IRS options....than it does to just make them ALL IRS.

Some free advice to Ford:
Soon, the free ride will be over.

 

Agree. Agree. Agree.

 

So from what I've read here, we're getting a third gen suspension with a first gen body? Hopefully I'm wrong and IRS will change that...

 

You may have missed it, but stock for stock a third gen could outhandle a fourth gen.

 

Yes, but was it because of the suspension, or the fact that the 4th gens were overweight fat pigs?

 

Your guess is as good as mine, but my third gen is about 3650 without me in it.

My friend's '96 Z28 is only 40 lbs more and it has all the same options plus t-tops.

 

From my expirence, I can't quote skidpad numbers because I don't know them nor do I care to look, the thirdgen feels like it handles better, but the fourth gen actually does (coming from a guy with just about every suspension mod available on his car). We're still handicaped by the Strut setup, the SLA setup is better, albeit more expensive. I read once that Lou Gigliotti said he'd build a 4th gen for a race car before a 3rd gen for that reason.

My thirdgen is 3450 lbs with me in it, so 3300 with a half tank of gas and no weight reduction mods aside from not having emissions stuff on it.