Anyone have any thoughts about this?
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Re: Anyone have any thoughts about this?
There were all sorts of anarchist bombings and even a presidential assination in the 19th century. It really depends how one wants to define "terrorist", but it was certainly long before the 1960s.
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Re: Anyone have any thoughts about this?
I think he meant muslim extremist
and here from Jread
and here from Jread
> Profiling or proven pattern, you take the HISTORY TEST
>
>
>
> Please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple
> choice test. The events are actual cuts from past history. They actually
> happened!!!
>
>
>
> Do you remember?
>
>
>
> 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by:
>
> a. Superman
>
> b. Jay Lenno
>
> c. Harry Potter
>
> d. Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> 1. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred
> by:
>
> a. Olga Corbett
>
> b. Sitting Bull
>
> c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> 2. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
>
> a. Lost Norwegians
>
> b. Elvis
>
> c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> 3. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
>
> a. John Dillinger
>
> b. The King of Sweden
>
> c. The Boy Scouts
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> 4. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
>
> a. A pizza delivery boy
>
> b. Pee Wee Herman
>
> c. Geraldo Rivera
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> 5. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old
> American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:
>
> a. The Smurfs
>
> b. Davy Jones
>
> c. The Little Mermaid
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> 6. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver
> trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
>
> a. Captain Kidd
>
> b. Charles Lindberg
>
> c. Mother Teresa
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> 7. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
>
> a. Scooby Doo
>
> b. The Tooth Fairy
>
> c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> 8. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
>
> a. Richard Simmons
>
> b. Grandma Moses
>
> c. Michael Jordan
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> 9. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
>
> a. Mr. Rogers
>
> b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill's
> women problems
>
> c. The World Wrestling Federation
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> 10. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles
> to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one
> crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crash ed by
> the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:
>
> a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
>
> b. The Supreme Court of Florida
>
> c. Mr. Bean
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> 11. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
>
> a. Enron
>
> b. The Lutheran Church
>
> c. The NFL
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> 12. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
>
> a. Bonnie and Clyde
>
> b. Captain Kangaroo
>
> c. Billy Graham
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> Nope, .....I real ly don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?
>
>
>
> So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics
> intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be
> allowed to profile certain people. They must conduct random searches of
> 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper
> identification, secret agents who are members of the President's
> security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of
> Honor winning and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males
> between the ages 17 and 40 alone because of profiling.
__________________
>
>
>
> Please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple
> choice test. The events are actual cuts from past history. They actually
> happened!!!
>
>
>
> Do you remember?
>
>
>
> 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by:
>
> a. Superman
>
> b. Jay Lenno
>
> c. Harry Potter
>
> d. Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> 1. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred
> by:
>
> a. Olga Corbett
>
> b. Sitting Bull
>
> c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> 2. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
>
> a. Lost Norwegians
>
> b. Elvis
>
> c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> 3. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
>
> a. John Dillinger
>
> b. The King of Sweden
>
> c. The Boy Scouts
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> 4. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
>
> a. A pizza delivery boy
>
> b. Pee Wee Herman
>
> c. Geraldo Rivera
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> 5. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old
> American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:
>
> a. The Smurfs
>
> b. Davy Jones
>
> c. The Little Mermaid
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> 6. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver
> trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
>
> a. Captain Kidd
>
> b. Charles Lindberg
>
> c. Mother Teresa
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> 7. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
>
> a. Scooby Doo
>
> b. The Tooth Fairy
>
> c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> 8. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
>
> a. Richard Simmons
>
> b. Grandma Moses
>
> c. Michael Jordan
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> 9. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
>
> a. Mr. Rogers
>
> b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill's
> women problems
>
> c. The World Wrestling Federation
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> 10. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles
> to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one
> crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crash ed by
> the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:
>
> a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
>
> b. The Supreme Court of Florida
>
> c. Mr. Bean
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> 11. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
>
> a. Enron
>
> b. The Lutheran Church
>
> c. The NFL
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> 12. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
>
> a. Bonnie and Clyde
>
> b. Captain Kangaroo
>
> c. Billy Graham
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>
>
> Nope, .....I real ly don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?
>
>
>
> So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics
> intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be
> allowed to profile certain people. They must conduct random searches of
> 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper
> identification, secret agents who are members of the President's
> security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of
> Honor winning and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males
> between the ages 17 and 40 alone because of profiling.
__________________
Last edited by Caps94ZODG; Oct 18, 2006 at 05:48 PM.
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Re: Anyone have any thoughts about this?
Caps -- that is truly a great post -- and if that does not wake up America, I don't know what will.
As I said - I love this country.
I love the fact that I can get on a jet (altho be somewhat accosted just before entering the aircraft) and fly anywhere in this country I want to -- or, for that matter, anywhere in the world.
I love the fact that I can go into a grocery store and see untold aisles of selections of any type of food imaginable. (go to most foreign countries and see if you can do the same thing......)
I love the fact that I can disagree with the Government -- and unless I'm making a serious threat --- I can get away with it.
I love the fact that I have the best standard of living overall that the world has ever known.
So excuse me when I blow up at people who complain about the United States --esp. those countries that we continually give money to in order to save their sorry a*$W.
Yup.......I'm politically incorrect as hell tonite.
As I said - I love this country.
I love the fact that I can get on a jet (altho be somewhat accosted just before entering the aircraft) and fly anywhere in this country I want to -- or, for that matter, anywhere in the world.
I love the fact that I can go into a grocery store and see untold aisles of selections of any type of food imaginable. (go to most foreign countries and see if you can do the same thing......)
I love the fact that I can disagree with the Government -- and unless I'm making a serious threat --- I can get away with it.
I love the fact that I have the best standard of living overall that the world has ever known.
So excuse me when I blow up at people who complain about the United States --esp. those countries that we continually give money to in order to save their sorry a*$W.
Yup.......I'm politically incorrect as hell tonite.
Last edited by Fbodfather; Oct 18, 2006 at 08:21 PM.
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Re: Anyone have any thoughts about this?
and you know what Scott, its your god given right to be a politically incorrect as you want..thats what makes america great..would love to post the propaganda crap N.Korea put on thier airwaves..you should see it..its basically everythign they are, they say we are and for us to go F themselves..
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Re: Anyone have any thoughts about this?
It is essentially a given that fewer Japanese would have died in an invasion than did in the bombings. From 100%, you have nowhere to go but down. I'd even be willing to bet that the total deaths would be lower even after adding in the number of American soldiers that would have been killed.
I'm not saying it was the wrong move, but to say that people with Japanese heritage should be glad it happened the way it did seems pretty ridiculous to me.
I'm not saying it was the wrong move, but to say that people with Japanese heritage should be glad it happened the way it did seems pretty ridiculous to me.
There was an estimate of 1 million casualties for the Allies if they fought a land battle in Japan. How many locals do you think would of been killed?
Have you watched any documentries on how hard it was to flush the Japs out of the pacific? The Japanese citizen's (not soldiers) of the islands killed themselves before being captured alive.
Do you know how hard they fought in PNG on Australia's doorstep? Do you know anything about the battle of the coral sea?
My guess is a big fat NO, I for one am glad we had the Americans as allies and did what they had to do against the Japs. Why else is Australia the only nation to follow the US into every single war since WWII?
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Re: Anyone have any thoughts about this?
Here's a couple of interesting links for those who want a quick lesson of why we're in Iraq and Afganistan....
http://www.armscontrolcenter.org/ter.../timeline.html
http://meria.idc.ac.il/journal/2001/issue4/jv5n4a3.htm
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Re: Anyone have any thoughts about this?
Incidentally, I was watching TV with my college buddies the other day, and Lexus' self-parking car commercial came on. They were mesmerized, and talked about it for a couple of minutes after. These guys aren't "car people." I don't think any of these guys would glance twice at the Chevy commercial other than to say John Mellencamp sucks (no offense to Mellencamp fans).
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Re: Anyone have any thoughts about this?
Incidentally, I was watching TV with my college buddies the other day, and Lexus' self-parking car commercial came on. They were mesmerized, and talked about it for a couple of minutes after. These guys aren't "car people." I don't think any of these guys would glance twice at the Chevy commercial other than to say John Mellencamp sucks (no offense to Mellencamp fans).
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Re: Anyone have any thoughts about this?
True enough, Eric, but as I posted above, just about any commercial makes an attempt to appeal to human emotions in one form or another. Sometimes they are funny, sometimes they are whimsical. Sometimes they try to make you feel safe and secure. Sometimes they go after sadness and pity.
In all seriousness, there are ads that I feel make a positive appeal to emotion, and then there are some that feel like they're just pandering in that lowest-common-denominator fashion. The Silverado spots firmly resides in the second catagory - for me. I might not be the key demographic for this slot, and that's fine. There's a 99% chance that my next truck will come from GM, but that's in spite of an ad campaign that uses a cheesy song from John "don't call me Cougar" Melloncamp and a bunch of politically-charged visuals.
As I said, though - that's just one person's opinion, and from a person that pretty much detests about 90% of the advertising he sees on TV.
How about the Ford Freestyle ad that featured a divorced mom driving the kids over to the ex-husband's house for the weekend?
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