I see we're back to the "let's make the Z/28 the big-gun Camaro" nonsense... God how I wish this would die.

SS was top of the line at the end, and while you guys might have some wish to reverse that trend, you're simply going to confuse the rest of the planet that doesn't care.

If you're that worried about tradition and history, let's just take it all the way back to the point where "Z28" was an option code (no slash) - because that makes about as much sense as trying to re-educate the buying public into forgetting that the SS was the top of the line car in the last generation, but no longer is in the new one.

Especially since GM is going to slap an SS badge on all of the high performance cars in the rest of the Chevrolet line... except for Corvette.

 

not really what we are saying is the SS should be a loaded fast car and the Z/28 a striped fast car.

 

As for the Z28 controversey...
In 1967 Chevrolet made 607 Z/28s for homoligation for Trans Am competition. By making the Z28 the 'top Camaro,' I am meerly suggesting (along with many others) that the Z28 be returned to its original status as the racing Camaro. Historicaly, the SS was always a high performance Camaro, but the Z/28 was what went racing.
I have owned an SS and a Z28, and they were both great cars. To be honest, they both performed at about the same performance level, so I am not slamming the SS. I am meerly suggesting the GM should return to its roots if they decide to make a 5th Generation Camaros. Thanks!

 

PacerX, you've got to admit buddy, here's an issue with staying power. It strikes a deep chord with so many of us. And I think that " / " is catching on too.

As far as confusing the rest of the planet...no one was confused when Chevy turned the Camaro SS into the Camaro Type LT and then into the Berlinetta. Everyone became confused when Chevy took Z/28's cues and features to create the Camaro SS however.


This is not so much a discussion of who's the "big gun"....since undoubtedly both models would share the same motor. The SS can remain what it is......the Z/28 however, NEEDS to be a Z/28 again.

That's all! Then everyone is happy. Unless someone has it in for the Z/28, of course.

 

I like 4th gen Z28 better that the retro Z/28 emblems.


out of all the years there was both a Z28 and SS, how years was the Z28 the top dog and how many the SS?

 

What was so confusing about the SS being the top model in the 4th Gen?

And who is 'everyone'? I don't really know anyone who was confused by it...

 

I wasn't, but then again I'm too young to remember the 70's Z28's with the 4th Gen SS-style hoods. Z28 obviously has an important place in Camaros past, present, and future and I'm all for differentiating it in a more positive way from SS. I just fail to get as P.O.'ed as a few here get when it comes to Z28 vs. SS.

Problem is, from everything that Scott has said, combined with the push for the SS badge being Chevy's line of performance variations on their cars and trucks, the handwriting is on the wall folks.

 

Well, I was for one...if anyone else wants to chime in feel free.

I've also grown weary of all this "top model" talk. When Chevy had both a real Camaro Z/28 and a real Camaro SS...no one ever spoke about top models. Both were appreciated for what they were...you made your choice and plunked down your cash.

Illustrating sources of confusion:

CONFUSION #1
Hood Scoops. This has to be some sort of Z/28 trademark. Even before the '69 ZL2 hood, Z/28 could be had with underhood cold air packages, without a hood scoop. The ZL2 hood could also be ordered on an SS in '69.
Camaro hood scoops reappeared in the '78 Z/28, (if you don't count the vestigial "decal" scoop on the '77 Z/28). From then on, both fake and functional scoops became a staple on Z/28.

SS gets Z/28 hood scoop....Z/28 doesn't?


CONFUSION #2

Wheels and Tires. Z/28 has always had the largest, most agressive, most stylish wheel/tire combo in the Camaro line-up. Maybe they were combined with an IROC package, or were available on both SS and Z/28, but Z/28 had them.

How did Z/28 lose it's wheels?

CONFUSION #3
Hi Perf parts. It is undeniable that Z/28 (short of some COPO's) has always had either standard or optional....Camaros' most hardcore and exotic pieces.

How did Z/28 lose the good pieces?

My confusion eminates from the fact that...overnight..... Z/28 lost all the things that make it a real Z/28.

 

Forth Gen never had hood scoops, Didn't you notice that all of those cars you talked about are over 25years old. Things changes, get over it. I agree that the forth gen Z28 was neglected, 17 in rims should have been an option, but I have no problem with the SS being more expensive and being above the Z28.

THe moral of the story is, the SS can be the top Camaro, just don't neglect the Z28 because of it.

 

Are you saying that Z/28's newer than 25 yrs old didn't have hood scoops?

And fourth gens, initially, had fake air extracters on their hoods.

 

So did the base model, though... making it hard to call them a "Z28 thing"...

 

Well then, the C6 better have an SS as the top car over the Z06, or they will get no sale from alot of Camaro (Z28) lunatics in years to come. The Camaro, like the Corvette, is a blantant performance and enthusiast car. Too many know the cars' history. Keeping the SS over the Z28 as top model is pure stupidity.

Here's my Super Sport SportsCar/MuscleCar. It's not necessary. Do you think there will be a GTO GXP, or a 5th Gen (maybe) Firebird GXP thats a "higher" model over the Trans Am?! I don't think so.

 

So should the Z34 be the top Monte Carlo over the SS?

There has never been a Corvette SS so why start now? plus it sound right on a Vette

The Camaro has a history with the SS name. I don't want the Z28 to be the Z06 or Cobra R of Camaros, I want it to be affordable. Make the ZL1 the top top mega Camaro, and put a 8.1L in it

 

Sure the SS has a history with it. As the top car to the regular buying public, the Z28 should be the "specialty" top car just like the ZO6 or S/Ced M*stang if there HAS to be an SS too like the 1st and early 2nd Gen. If not give take away the 1LE name give it's spot to the Z28. Otherwise there is no reason for a Z28 and no reason to further devaule its name and history.

That is all.

 

WOW! This post gives me more insight into your opinion than all the others combined.

Z34 was a meaningless name. Your comparing it to the Z/28!?Why?......because it has a Z in it. What about Ozzie Osbourne, or Bazooka Bubblegum...they have Z's in them too.

It's clear to me that you don't have a shread of understanding about the Z/28 mystique. You say that Camaro has a history with the SS name...fair enough. Are you denying the history Camaro has with the Z/28? Are denying that Z/28 captured the heart and soul of multiple generations of Camaro enthusiasts?

If all Z/28 means to you, is the cheapest V8 Camaro....you may want to go back and do your own research. Who knows...you may surprise yourself.