If I have a tendency to talk favorably about Ford in this forum, it is only because of the extreme negativity towards Ford, that some of the posters in this forum display. It wouldn't matter what it is, how good it is, or how bad it may be............. if its Ford, GM does it better.

I like both Ford and GM. Ford better on some things, GM better on others. I do realize that they both suck at some things........... and are great at others. They are both in big trouble at this time............ also.

Unlike some here, I have a tendency to be a "glass is half full" kinda person. I use this outlook when talking, or thinking about both companies.

I certainly don't have to defend anything GM on this site, as there are certainly enough blindly loyal cheerleaders to cover that job. Thus, I become a "counterpoint" kinda person.

That said, I'm certainly not happy about the weight of the car. Do I understand it............. yes. Do I like it................ no. Of course, unlike some, I never thought of the car in regards to being a Corvette killer. I appreciate it for what it is. Just as I appreciate the Vette for what it is............. even if I cannot buy one (family of 3).

Some of you in here are so funny. It is just so black and white to you. The truth is, in the real world, things are not nearly that cut and dried. Kinda like how you like to stereotype me.

Fact is, I would love to be able to compare the GT500 to the top-of-the-line Camaro. That I cannot do so, frustrates me to no end. This makes me angry at GM's shortsightedness. Just as I am angry with Ford for their treatment of SVT............. and their loyal buyers. All of this probably explains why I post on here so little these days............... that, and the fact that I just don't have time.

 

I dont agree with this at all...the GT500 has 100hp more than the Vette, which at least IMO, should have been enough to at least beat the Vette in the straight line. Obviously it wasnt

 

With Car and Drivers Sunday school driving and bias against Ford in the past, what did anyone expect? SVT reports the slowest time measured by magagines as 113, fastest 117 back in April. I want to see a comparison of each car by someone who can really drive each to their full potential, not by a generic magazine who thinks that all American cars are junk to begin with.

 

I would just like to see production cars tested............ instead of preproduction cars.

 

Well, as has been stated on here many, many times.......... performance is about more than just straight line.

 

True - but the GT500 falls far short in handling too.
I guess the driving feel, clutch, transmission, steering, etc could have a better feel than the C6s... that's kind of subjetive though and given the difference in weight and how much weight affects handling response I still have a tough time seeing that.

Really, on a larger scale - while performance is more than just straight line acceleration... cars are about more than just performance!... though some are marketed with a strong bias toward the performance arena, and in those cars the performance matters most (typically).

 

Ok.

 

Compared too.... oh yeah a vette! lighter, lower center of gravity, better weight distribution, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Now compare the GT500 to cars which are hobbled with the same short comings, you know space for more than 2 passengers and the nessecary design compromises needed for that, then it looks a bit better, since the GT500 out ran both the GTO and a Charger SRT8 through the slalom. High center of gravity and blasphemy against god and all that is natural live rear axle.

 

LOL, that reminds me of the Mustang GT vs. Integra R-Type comparo an import mag did a coupla years back. They picked a track which played to the strengths of the GT and it put the smackdown on the R-Type.

Hell, a clapped out honda civic missing one wheel will put a hurting on the Shelby if the course is real tight and what you need is a small light car that can be tossed around real quick and the engine doesn't overpower the chassis, change the venue to a track that allows you to finesse the Shelby around and take advantage of its power and look out midget racer.

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However you are right, I did mean compared to V8 RWD 4 person car.

 

Why? The world isn't so black and white. I can't see why a 4 seater car couldn't bring down a 2 seater car of equal value. I know what you are trying to say with your post, but I don't agree with the way you worded some of it.

You can get an Evo RS for about the same as a Solstice GXP will go for, and although there is no hard evidence for the GXP's performance yet, I could see the Evo outperforming the Solstice is just about everything, with 4 seats and 4 doors.

 

EXACTLY...and the GT500 is no match for a Vette in anything other than a straight line, which as of RIGHT NOW, it is a little behind.

 

According to one test.............. of a preproduction vehicle.

Can we just reserve some of the back patting until there are actual production cars???

BTW, short of straight line acceleration.............. exactly what else was anyone expecting the GT500 to beat a Vette in???

 

Certainly not handling.

Actually, I was expecting mid to low 12's from the GT500. I never thought we'd see a comparo where a base Vette would out accelerate it.

 

Nothing at all...but you stated earlier that performance is more than just straight line acceleration and the GT500 doesnt beat the base Vette in any performance category

 

The GT500 has put down a mid to low 12 second pass, unless anybody considers 12.25 a high 12 second pass. Then again that might be in mustang seconds and not "real world" bowtie seconds.