Those times must be off. It will be interesting to see as time goes on what this car is capable of stock. I know its 500lbs heavier than my car, but's no quicker even with 100hp more? For the sake and respect of all pony cars I hope it really performs better than that.

 

Umm, you are obviously getting your good e.t. from your launch if you are only trapping 103 mph with a 13.2 E.T. The GT500 is trapping 112, so even if you crossed the finish of the 1/4 mile at the same time, he would be literaly rocketing past you.

Dan

 

This Cobra will compete with nothing in terms of bang for buck. It's a poser pony car, the exact idealogy that Mustang was originally based on.



....but they'll still sell every one that they make.

 

Probably because the vette has much better aerodynamics than the shelby, both CD and frontal area.

The C6 also has a 3.46 rear, making 4th effectively shorter and thus better for acceleration, and also has a 250rpm higher redline to take advanatge of that small gearing help too. Also, the C6 Z51 has the MN12 T56 which has a shorter 5th than other T56s too, 0.84:1, which while not a lot better than the 0.80 listed for this shelby trans (and vs. 0.74:1 for the fbody) is again just that much more help in the 140+ region.

 

Very true, LS1s are blowing by me at that speed already. But my point is the GT500 should be running mid/high 12's, not low 13's. Comparing it to my car was sensless...

The Vette has 400hp, weighs about 3,200lbs and runs 12.7 in 1/4 mile.
The GT 500 has 500 hp (100 over the Vette), weighs 3,950 (650 over the Vette)and runs 13.1.
Typically (and this is rough math) one can figure it takes about 10hp to make up for every 100 pounds and about 10hp for each 10th in the quarter mile. That means based on the Vette's 12.7 1/4 mile time and the weights of both cars, the GT500 should be around 12.4 in the 1/4 mile. That's a half second off its time now...it's not even close.
(Until there's more than one 1/4 mile time from a GT500 I'm going to bench race my *ss off )

 

Agreed. We came to the same conclusion. I also said that I think it will be a mid to high 12 second car based on it's trap speed. E.T's can change drastically by the launch and driver mod, but the trap speed is always much more consistant. A car that traps 112 will be in the 12's easy. If the rear end can handle it (and they typically can in the Fords), if you put some slicks on the GT500 it will be impressive. The VERY, VERY unimpressive part to me is the handling and braking. It took a big step backwards in that department due to it's weight. It's obvious that they tried to remidy it as best they could with the awesome brakes, but there is no way to stop that momentum and inertia when the car weighs very close to two tons. It is a very cool car that unfortunately will be limited to straight line acceleration. Once you get SERIOUS with any type of road course or autox, the weight will be a HUGE drawback.

Dan

 

Oh damn, you forgot metrosexual lace panty wearing perrie drinking butter cups!

 

Y'know the GT's come with a torque management feature (can't speed shift, elec throttle closes when you shift). I bet the Shelby is the same.

I know its a mod, but I'd like to see what the car will run with a compy tune.

 

It obviously will change alot, since most production vehicles with forced induction aren't tuned to their full power potential.
They do alot of stuff about fuel economy, wear and tear on the car, driveable power band, and just, in general, make the car feel good.

 

Thanks... Hope you dont mind.

 

That is one tubby b***h.

 

They probably down played it because nobody would ever expect it to be remotely close. After all, this is the Vette's home turf. Very few cars can hang with it on a road course, and those that do compose an elite group. Porky is just not built for it.

 

Naw. It's a textbook example of SVT losing it's way.

I'll agree. Those brakes are something to kill for. They came directly off of the Ford GT.... and they ARE good!




I haven't read the article, and havent been to the bookstore in awhile, so I'm not sure what's been said about the GT500. Personally, I feel the car is the modern Shelby GTKR500. A car that's gone so far that it's become a caracture of what it was. A car that (while extremely capable) has gone too far in price, weight, and has become more of a boulevard cruiser with track pieces than a track car that is comfortable on the street like the last S/C Cobras were.

I "like" the GT500 and it's indestructable powertrain and racecar parts and tuning. But unlike the Mustang Mach 1 and the Mustang Cobra I don't see myself buying one. Especially with SVT dissolved and you now stand in line at any Ford dealer for maintence work.

 

Somebody correct me on this (since I dont know), but how is that different from somebody buying a vette or even a Z06? Or do vette owners get preferential treatment at a dealership?

 

The problem is, they are designed to be kick *** brakes for a 3400lb car, not a 3900lb car. I am not saying the brakes on the GT500 will be bad for their application, they just aren't going to have the same kind of stopping power on the Mustang (plus the Ford GT doesn't have to deal with obscene ammounts of nose dive).