...........you musta' had two Starbucks specials to write all of that!

Thanks for all the kind words and your passion too!! You never cease to amaze me with your energy and understanding of the issues.

The Camaro is in good hands indeed.

Happy Holidays buddy.....I'll see you in February...in Chicago!.......wait a minute.....February in a northern city??!!?? Maybe we oughta' think...............VEGAS baby!! LOL!

See you in Chitown......bbbbbbbrrrrrrrrrrrr........


BTW sent you a PM.......

 

To: The VP of Stirring the Pot,
From: VP of the Cattle Prod Brigade

Great post & really enjoyed reading it (yes a compliment ). It was really insightful, and cleared up alot of items and misconceptions (on my part as I'm sure with others as well).

Let me know your next trip to LA, San Diego, or the Bay Area. It'd be interesting to meet you (especially since you're from a couple of exits up on the Turnpike).

 

It was a good post yes, and I probably still disagree with alot while agreeing with only a little. I just hope we can get what we want in a 5th Gen and you take what we say into consideration. I also hope you start taking what people say on boards more seriously, its basically the same thing as talking to people in person, but they can say what they really want and say things they might not think of at a meeting.

 

While I agree with you, Scott addressed this issue head on, and had several good points as to why it is sometimes hard to do so...

 

He visits this site alot though and should be able to tell who's for real/serious and who's not by now. I don't like the reasoning of, "I want to know your age and how much you make a year approach." Thats irrelevant, any1 at all can come up with great ideas and reasoning, and they don't have to be at a show to do it.

 

Well... OK, by that logic then.... what about newcomers who are serious? Such as Pacer X? He is fairly new, but if Scott were to go by "who is real/serious by now", then Pacer X would never be looked at.

While age and job and income may be irrelevant for coming up with ideas .... it is relevant as to where those ideas should be applied.

It's called demographics .

By you saying that Scott should listen to sites like this over other sources is exactly this practice. You can't pick and choose certain applications for the practice....

 

Listen, regardless, if PacerX brings up good views that make sence then he brings up good views that make sence. It doesn't matter who he is, his age, where he works, or how long he's been here. Any1 can come up with something. If those thing make you value 1 persons opinion over another then I just don't know.

 

But YOU just said:

So by YOUR comment against Scott, you would have excluded Pacer X, but now you do another 180, saying it doesn't matter if he is an established poster!

THIS is exactly the type of thing that Scott is talking about....

Think before you speak.

 

I meant that for those of us that he knows somewhat by now. I also meant that he should be able to tell by the post if some1 has a good opinion or knows something and that it really doesn't matter how established they are. YOU brought in the established stuff.

 

<Beating head against brick wall>

 

Whatever dude, you know what I mean so stop making things difficult.

Of course he'll take things said by members he has been here with more and might agree with more into consideration, Im just saying not to limit it to only certian people, to also not disregard something said by some1 not a set age, salary, whatever, or who is also new or not. You don't really have to "know" them, great things can come from any1, I'm sure plenty of people at the shows are morons in person, LOL, were the "group of owners" that approved the 4th Gen's the correct age and all the other stuff?? If so, I don't wanna be that.

 

I really try to take what you say seriously, as I do with everyone...

But, you just don't want to hear what anyone else has to say unless it is what you had previosly proclaimed to be Gospel... which is ironic considering we are talking about listening to certain people, or anyone...

"Thirds Gens are the best, period" ~IZ28
"Fourth Gens suck, period" ~IZ28
"Red Planet is wrong, period" ~IZ28

You either do not understand what other people are saying, or you don't want to...

I'm not saying you are wrong, but you need to listen to other people....

 

I do, and I and any1 else can put their own perspective on a situation if they feel, thats why its a DISCUSSION. Show me a post where I have said those things exactly, the only time I said right out I felt RP was wrong was when he gave the impression of not listening to anything said on the boards. Don't go quoting people with things taken out of context. We all have our OPINION's. Plenty of others do/say the same. Everything has its advantages/disadvantages and its important to discuss both due to the topic of this board. Maybe you don't want to listen since you are so quick to agree with RP and don't want to even think otherwise. But I am trying to take you seriously. And maybe you don't want to understand that I'm saying yeah its good to be more confident in the people here or anywhere that he trusts the views of by now, (regulars most probably) but don't dismiss others either. Especially because of who they are or might be.

 

Uhhhh...............no.

Unless one is psychic, there is no way to tell who is who unless I've met them.

I have no idea of who you are.........sorry....don't mean to upset you.......

Nothing wrong with ideas......but I think you need to re-read what I said about "knowing the customer."

 

What does it matter who they are as long as they have good ideas?? You hear a good idea and thats it. Do you think if I ever meet you in person I'm going to tell you my age and what I do?! I could care less. I wanna talk about the CAMARO. And no I've never met you in person but heres why. In an E-Mail I sent you asking a Third Gen Camaro history question (I think it was about who designed them) which you gave a nice reply too, (not sure if I specificed I was IZ28 from CZ28.com or not, think I did though) you asked me if I was gonna be at an upcoming meeting, don't recall which it was. I replyed with no, but asked if you were ever gonna be in my area and you never got back to me, thats why I haven't "met" you in person. I would like to, and I know you are busy and can't recall all of your E-Mails, but I have no idea what your schedule is.

I feel here is just as good or a better place though, maybe not as much for you, but for us it is. Anyway.