A "good" idea is only really "good" if it comes from someone who has both the means AND the desire to buy the product. Demographics is what it's all about, that's all Darth and Red are saying. Do you represent a wide range of buyers or are you the hardcore 20 year old who couldn't care less about comfort, ergonomics, etc. Would you even be able to afford a new Camaro? These are legit questions. If you were trying to sell a product would you ask for input from people you aren't even sure could buy it? You may think you have all the solutions for a 5th Gen, but would those ideas sell to the masses? 500 HP and a suspension harder than a 10 year old Christmas fruitcake may be just the thing for you but are you able to spend $35 grand for it? Are there many people out there that are willing to? It takes more in-depth study to develop a car than just listening to random people on the net. Not that this forum isn't important, but the reality is you, I, and almost everyone else here are RANDOM people. So this is why Red encourages everyone to get to a show whenever possible and talk with him. Like I said I have met him once and was very impressed at how easily accessable and personable he was, even in the midst of one HECTIC morning at the Brickyard. Unfortunately I didn't get a chance to talk about the next car. Eh, maybe next year.

 

LOL, some good lines in that post, but yeah I care about it all. I don't even think the passion I have for this car can even be questioned, especially by people who know me. They might think I'm a little crazy with it, (as RP has said people think about him) but I call it passion. I get what you're saying about demographic, but I just hope he listens to every1 and any1 everywhere regardless of anything, thats all. I've heard some great suggestions and ideas from people you'd never think you would from all places, at car shows and cruise nights mostly, even import drivers/ricers that really want 1.

 

I'll be in L.A. for the autoshow...not sure when I'm arriving and when I'm leaving, but perhaps we can meet with a few enthusiasts and have a drink or dinner.

 

You wouldn't happen to be going to Detroit the next week would you?

 

I live in Grosse Pointe.......office is in the RenCen....so while I travel on business extensively, Detroit is home at this point.

--will be at Cobo on and off throughout the NAIAS.........

 

And the Assmonkey F-body enthusiast of 2002 award goes too......

*drum roll*

IZ28!



Opinions are like *******s everyone has one....

Seems you take yourself and your opinions way to seriously.

In short it's fine to have ignorant biased opinions...just realize you make yourself look worse the more you advertise them

 

I'll be there on the 3rd & 4th! Let me know.

 

I think thats you dude, always claiming about how you told us things way ahead of every1 else constantly, (THAT becomes tiring) and how you seem to think you know whats going on more than every1 else here when you don't. The sooner you learn to be not so full of yourself, the better you'll be. So quit tooting your own horn all the time and consider yourself for your own awards.

An opinion can't really be opinion unless it has some bias now can it?? I only get like that when discussing these topics like Z28 vs. SS and the Gens (even 5th) if you'll notice, but I explained why earlier, I just gotta!! Almost can't help it!! Seriously though, keep the BS comments like in your previous post to yourself. If you have something thats off topic and stupid to say it shoud be taken off of the boards with a PM or not said at all.

 

Not to be directed to anyone in particular from me, but I do request that people adhere to this or I will have to close this thread.

Please keep it cool, everyone.

 

Last time I checked I am not wrong very often (though I have been). I guess what gets to me is I will spend time posting what i hear will happen and I get ignored or flames...then when it does happen everyone gets mad because I pointed out that that though you didn't belive me I was right. I cover GM as a hobby and it is very hard at times. Seems like what was gonna happen today changes tommorow...guess thats the risk you run posting rumors. I was told by someone who I considered a reliable source that the Grand Prix would have 280 HP at all cost per Bob Lutz...so I published it...when it didnt happen because the transaxle couldn't survive I didn't hear the end of it. It's all the fun of covering GM.
I guess what pisses me off is people on here think they know more than they do about what is going on with GM. I have put alot of time running the phones at GM and talking to people and such...and it pisses me off when some Joe blow who makes pencils for a living tells me I am wrong of full of ****. It has seriously made me consider wether or not all the effort I put in (on average 30 hours a week) is worth it to me or the people I neglect. I dunno...sorry to rant guys..

 

I'll independently confirm that. I corresponded with an individual who actually worked on the Grand Prix after it's touchups (the original design for the next Grand Prix had a late hour restyling up front & the sides were touched up as well). Bob Lutz was seemingly hellbound to have 280hp, and was going to run it with that even though GM powertrain had serious issues with that. Still don't know if the decision to go with less was his, or someone else's.

Keeping good relations with official sources, and running a news letter doesn't always give you the best and most up to date information (you aren't told everything, and if you come across a goldmine accidently from someone else, you may get cut off or have certain access revoked if you print it), and I can understand the frustration of one higher up saying one thing, then comming here and hearing something different from someone else. Just let time separate who's reliable as a second source, & who's full of BS.

Realize, also, that the danger of relying only on high sources for information is that, they won't tip their hand to you before their ready, and they will seemingly deny things that may infact be true (ie: "There won't be Miata sized Camaro" is not saying that Solstice will be a shortened Camaro...as an example ).

Finally, don't make the mistake of always using someone's job as a measurement how accurate their information is. Anybody can meet anyone, and everyone can happen into information accidently. That's how I got started.

Don't worry about the rant Brand. Just don't get sore lips blowing that horn of yours, and it'll be right.