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Old May 19, 2004 | 01:20 AM
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Originally posted by hp_nut
Not a single GTO fan can come up with ONE thing the current $33K GTO does better than a $25K Mustang GT. Performance? Styling? Utility? Economy?
I might be crazy, but I believe the 2004 GT has 260 HP compared to the GTOs 350.
Old May 19, 2004 | 06:59 AM
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Originally posted by hp_nut
Wow. You can't buy an '05 GT today. I said that too. I think we all get that.

You think you'll be seeing LS2 GTOs by the end of this year? Keep dreaming. More like NEXT summer.
Are you even reading my posts??????? The LS2 GTO will be out this fall just like the '05 Mustang GT you are comparing it to.

Originally posted by hp_nut
Not a single GTO fan can come up with ONE thing the current $33K GTO does better than a $25K Mustang GT. Performance? Styling? Utility? Economy?
Again you arn't reading the other posts are you.
The GTO has....
90 more HP this year, 100 more HP next year
IRS
T-56 6 speed manual
Better interior
Better build quality
smoother ride
more interior room (except trunk, mustang wins by 1 cu. ft.)

The only think it doesn't beat the GT on is price, but since you get soo much more, the cost is justified.
Old May 20, 2004 | 08:58 AM
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Originally posted by Z28x
Are you even reading my posts??????? The LS2 GTO will be out this fall just like the '05 Mustang GT you are comparing it to.



Again you arn't reading the other posts are you.
The GTO has....
90 more HP this year, 100 more HP next year
IRS
T-56 6 speed manual
Better interior
Better build quality
smoother ride
more interior room (except trunk, mustang wins by 1 cu. ft.)

The only think it doesn't beat the GT on is price, but since you get soo much more, the cost is justified.

Yes I am. And why on earth do you think the LS2 will be in the GTO by the end of this year?

As to the list. It's shaping out to be fairly certain that:

-The '05 GT will outrun the LS1 GTO. That will be the choice on
dealer lots come this winter
-So what about the T56? The problem with previous 5spds is they
were too light duty. The Tremec 5spd is as tough as the T56
-has at least as good an interior
-top build quality if the new F150 is any indication
-GTO wins smoother ride via IRS against solid axle
-interior room will be roughly equivalent.
-a far more usable trunk than +1 cu ft would indicate

Just to see if blue oval loyalty is just as blind as bowtie, I posted an interesting question over on Brad barnett's forum.

http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?showtopic=2027

And yes it is.
Old May 20, 2004 | 09:02 AM
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If the 2005 GTO has the LS2, you can assume it will be out when the 2005 Mustang is.

Why try to compare the 2005 Mustang to the 2004 GTO?

Compare the same model years (2004 vs 2004 and 2005 vs 2005) , and everything is fair.
Old May 20, 2004 | 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by hp_nut
Just to see if blue oval loyalty is just as blind as bowtie, I posted an interesting question over on Brad barnett's forum.

http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?showtopic=2027

And yes it is.
One thing I will strongly agree with is that in they called the car Pontiac Monaro than no one would have a problem with it. Perhaps that is what they should have done and saved the GTO name for the 2007 redesign.
Old May 20, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by redzed
Have all those years of Mustang ownership lowered your standards? With the entirely decent 2005 Mustang GT on the way, the idea of GTO ownership is unthinkable.
What can I say...


I was shopping with somebody else's money, and had to buy from an abbreviated list!

Seriously, I hold nothing against the GTO's capability, performance, or quality. My only problem is it's name.
IMO, it would be kinda cool to buy a GTO, and take off the badges and replace them with mail-order "Monaro" badges from down under! That would stir some conversations at a cruise-in, eh?
Old May 20, 2004 | 01:15 PM
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I have a question.... Why doesnt it deserve to be called a GTO? Because it doesnt have hood scoops?
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