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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by R377
Bags > jugs :yup:

- Less packaging waste.
- Only 1/3 of your milk is unsealed at any one time, keeping the remainder fresher.
- Those with weak/arthritic wrists only have to hoist 1.3L instead of 3.78.


I have never seen milk bags west of Manitoba (maybe year and years ago). Here in Alberta its all jugs.
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by R377
Bags > jugs :yup:

- Less packaging waste.
- Only 1/3 of your milk is unsealed at any one time, keeping the remainder fresher.
- Those with weak/arthritic wrists only have to hoist 1.3L instead of 3.78.

Takes up too much space. You have a couple of stacked bags plus a pitcher. A jug fits nicely in the door. And how do you seal the bag once you cut it? Doesn't the milk pick up other flavors in the fridge?
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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Re: 2006 Buick Lucerne

Originally Posted by slt
Takes up too much space. You have a couple of stacked bags plus a pitcher. A jug fits nicely in the door. And how do you seal the bag once you cut it? Doesn't the milk pick up other flavors in the fridge?
Actually, it doesn't take much space. The pitcher's footprint is smaller than a carton of OJ, and the unopened bags just sit in one of the drawers in the bottom.

You only cut open about a 1/2" corner of the bag (it can't be resealed) so picking up flavours isn't an issue. Plus it's only 1.3 litres so you go through it pretty quickly.
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 03:53 PM
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When I hear the name "Lucerne" I think of milk and cottage cheese.
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 04:11 PM
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The last time I drove a toyota V6, was in my mom 96 ES300... I remember the transmission shifted literally seamlessly, and the engine seemd to just purr.. Driving around normally, during accel, effortlessly hung around 2000-3000 rpms.. Everything was so smooth, it didn't even feel like it was trying. I imagine almost 10 years later, Toyota has only improved on this! But using premium gas is a CON though.



In the end, GM has to simply reduce the thrash AND make the auto's shift smoother. Cause thats what erally matters in the end.. quiet and smooth... like your driving a cloud.


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and I like jugs.. You can toss the around easier.


Originally Posted by Z28x
1. previous 3800 cars of this size had no problems. 230 tq vs. 260 tq in the Toyota, it isn't not far behind.

2. THe Toyota V6 hits 280 @ 6200 rpm, people will not be drag racing these cars, how many old ladies will be driving at redline. low end toque is where it is at in this segment.

3. GMs DOHC 3.6L hits its peak torque at 1500rpm before the Toyota and is puting out about the same torque at on 87 Octane , Toyota needs the 20¢ a gallon more expensive premium gas

4. If need more than 230tq you can get the DOHC V8 with 300 lb-ft. that is 40 more than the toyotas peak number.
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 09:01 PM
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the old toyota V6 with 200hp only seems like it's "not trying" when it really isn't. my mom has a 2000 Camry. Step on it and it start sweating bullits. It doesn't thrash, but you don't get any sense of urgency with it either. Same goes for the tranny. The upshifts are still smooth at redline, but it takes what a whole second to do?

Don't get me wront the 3800 is worse in every respect except in just-off-the-line feel.

The real star engine is Nissan's VQ series. I don't give a fig if it take premium fuel. my dad's '96 Maxima STILL to this day with 90k miles has the most satisfying feel of any V6 I've driven. most of the time my dad doesn't even put premium in it. it just feels like a giant hydraulic piston is pushing you forward when you stomp on the gas. smooth as silk AND gets you moving smartly. until I drive GM's 2.8L/3.2L/3.6L series I can't say if it's a worthy compatitor to the VQ. BUT so far, I've read great reviews. It really should have gone into the Lucern as a base engine in one of those displacements. Maybe the 3.2L would be ideal...
Old Feb 15, 2005 | 01:59 AM
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The 3.2 is part of the old Opel V6 series, and has nothing to do with the High Feature 2.8 and 3.6.
Old Feb 15, 2005 | 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Als Z
The 3.2 is part of the old Opel V6 series, and has nothing to do with the High Feature 2.8 and 3.6.
you're right, the 3.2L is the 54* engine. I know that. For whatever reason I thought that there was a version of the 2.8L and 3.6L in 3.2L displacement either in development or already in production. I did some checking and it looks like there's no such engine.

either way, they should have either put the 3.9L or the 3.6L in the Lucern. GM just won't let the longest running engine rest. yet.
Old Feb 15, 2005 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by R377
This is a great point, and one that magazine racers (not to mention any names here) rarely pick up on. You always hear how Nissan's or Acura's or Toyota's similarly sized V6s put out more power, but no one ever mentions that they need premium fuel to do it. Give kudos to GM for doing what's in the best interest of their consumers, even if it means losing brownie points from those who don't know better.



Consider that you drive 10,000 miles a year. The "extra change" you had to pay for premium adds up to $2000 at year's end
Old Feb 16, 2005 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by morb|d
you're right, the 3.2L is the 54* engine. I know that. For whatever reason I thought that there was a version of the 2.8L and 3.6L in 3.2L displacement either in development or already in production. I did some checking and it looks like there's no such engine.

either way, they should have either put the 3.9L or the 3.6L in the Lucern. GM just won't let the longest running engine rest. yet.
Agreed. The 3.6 should have been base, with Northstar standard. In the land of full size luxury cars, the power and smoothness of the HF V6's and Northstar is a deffinate MUST HAVE! GM and Buick needs to spend a little bit more money, and start making more 3.6's.
Old Feb 16, 2005 | 09:55 AM
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Re: 2006 Buick Lucerne

Originally Posted by slt
Did you guys know that Canadians buy their milk in bags? They stick the bag in a pitcher and cut one corner off the bag to pour it. One more reason why the USA > Canada
I haven't seen bagged milk since the 70s. We have 1, 2, and 4 Litre plastic jugs. Just more proof that Americans really don't know anything about their neighbors to the north.
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