GT and SS are hardly comparable. Perhaps the Cobra and SS would be a better comparison.

 

$32,000 != $26,000

$6,000 difference is not as close as you make it out to be. It's a lot of money. $26,000 is a high estimate as official pricing hasn't been released yet. Besides, can you name another RWD, 300 HP, V8 sports coupe running on 87 octane for less than $30,000? Mustang is the only one that comes to mind without really searching.

 

We'll have to see about that but at a size 14 shoe, I'm a bit worried as well.

 

If Ford gave the Cobra and GT the same parts (engine, suspension, brakes) as did chevy with their z28 and SS, there would be no huge gap since the GT and Cobra would both have had the 32v 4.6 Dohc since 96. While Chevy chose to make their mid and high trim 4th gen camaro's nearly identical in performance, Ford chose to put a sizable performance gap between GT and Cobra. Think third gen f-bod and fox body where Ford only had the 302 option on the performance models (lx and GT) and chevy had the 305 and 350 on the z28’s and Iroc’s. While the Irocs hung closely with the 302 GT’s and Lx’s, the 305 was a good bit slower. This is the setback with having two different engines, etc…This meant the GT had to make sacrifices as not to step on the toes of the more expensive Cobra. It didn't take the mustang till 04 to get 300+hp, it just took the GT that long since the 95 Cobra R had 300+hp in 95, and the Cobra's have had 305+ since 96.

Ford has a tier system setup, where those who want economy get a v6, those who want some oomph opt for a GT, and those that want even more performance have the option of a Cobra, Cobra R, Saleen, or whatever other special addition is on the market or Ford dealers. So nothing is really lacking since there’s a model that covers everyone of those bases.

 

I own my 2nd Thunderbird SC. If Chevrolet's new Monte Carlo Supercharged SS was rear wheel drive and came with a stick (and didn't have a speed governor), I'd consider it too.

Say NO to brand Loyalty.

 

I present to the court, 'exhibit B'.

However, Ford is the one excpetoin to my personal rule. I just can't get myself to consider buying anything they make because I've been a long time Chevy guy.

It's kinda like being a Redskins fan prevents me from liking anything related to the Cowboys. Although, the upside to that is I have two favorite teams on any given Sunday.

Every other mfg has a fair shot.

 

Okey dokey, we all know that the power difference between the Z28 and the SS was minimal.

Soooo....

That'd be a 345hp Z28 vs. a 300hp GT.

Better?

 

All I know is that the DEW98 platform is lightyears ahead (OK well 25+ to be realistic) of the SN95's roots.

With that said, my buddy's 94 Cobra even in stock form most definitely handled better (IMO) than my 94 Z28 did. Then again, so did my friend's 98 WS6 T/A as well as my own 95 Maxima... so that's really not saying much.

 

Might as well, it can't beat the Cobra either. We all know you have to pick the weaker car to compete with

 

So lemme get this straight.

The '05 GT will run in the twisties right behind the LATEST M3? Or was that older one?

 

The version that's been out....333hp. Again, that's with all season 17's and 235's. Wonder if they would be dead even with sticky BFG KDW's 18's and 255's.

 

You didnt at all answer my question. Let me try this again. Why is the Mustang GT, which competed with the Camaro Z28, SO far behind in power and handling? It is interesting to think about, atleast to me.


Why is $26k a high estimate and where did this estimate come from? Releasing a truely high estimate is not good marketing (slightly high is), neither is releasing a low one, so it will probably be very close, of course depending on the source of this price. GTO's are already down to around 30k at many places, so it is only $4000 and will only be a matter of time until it is less. From what has been rumored, the GTO is probably still going to be faster, and thats 04', 05' will be without a doubt. The GTO has IRS and more room rear seat room than the Mustang. Handling will probably bee comparable eventhough the GTO weighs 3900lbs. People here rip on the GTO and in 05' it will destroy the Mustang GT in performance and possibly handling for almost the same price.

Should make for some decent comparisons in 2005. I know I'm looking forward to it.

And before you jump in with the price gap crap, Mustang owners love to compare their 04' Cobra with the Vette and that price gap is more than twice teh price difference between the GTO and the surmised GT prices.

 

On another note, Mustang owners are some DIEHARD fans and for that I give them lots of credit. They will go out and buy this car no matter what and that is what kept and continues to keep their Mustang in produciton. I only wish Camaro owners did the same. You see all the posts about the Camaro name and everyone is standing up for it and such, but had everyone always done this and bought the cars, we would still have the Camaro and would not be in this situation.

 

Yes we would be. And alot of Camaro owners are like that too.

If they GT handles like the GTO it's gonna only be a mid .8 g car. Not particularly impressive but not terrible.

 

HOLY GOD!!!!!

Check out this thread:
http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=482082

A fully optioned GT is over 30k!!!!!!!!!!!

A guy ordered his for $31,700.

There is a $1000 dollar rebate for purchasing through ENCS and they are guaranteed not to pay more than their quoted price. So the final price could be more or less.

Any way you slice it they will be over 28k with options comparable to the GTO.

The Mustang GT will get by the GTO and their pricing is looking very comparable.

Have seen some skid pad tests of the GTO that put it at .87 or .88 cant remember which one. It was posted on here. The competing year, 2005, gets bigger tires and better brakes though. More ownage!