200 hp Sentra
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Like I said earlier, most consumers are only going to know what GM tells them about their cars. If I'm cross shopping $20,000 sport compacts, a 200hp Civic, 200hp Sentra and 205hp Cobalt are going to look a lot closer on paper than they compare in real life. A 230hp rated Cobalt for the same price as the other two is definately going to open eyes.
Lastly, when comparing these cars, why is so concerned about horsepower for the dollar? I guess it had to do with Rob's statement earlier in the thread. People are forgetting about vehicle content and appeal. Cars like the Civic and this new Sentra come with 6 speed gearboxes and LSD's standard. If you want a LSD in a Cobalt its another $1500. I'm not sure what the Sentra's options will include, but the Civic has the option for a navigation system. Believe it or not, some people enjoy redlining 8000rpm torquless motors. Each car offers its own driving experience.
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Actually, GM is hurt, not the competition. Not everyone races their car, or has it dynoed, or surfs internet forums to look at dyno sheets from every car they think about purchasing. GM is only winning the hp/$ arguement amongst the small minority of enthusiest who know the real deal. 99% of the population however is in the dark.
Like I said earlier, most consumers are only going to know what GM tells them about their cars. If I'm cross shopping $20,000 sport compacts, a 200hp Civic, 200hp Sentra and 205hp Cobalt are going to look a lot closer on paper than they compare in real life. A 230hp rated Cobalt for the same price as the other two is definately going to open eyes.
Lastly, when comparing these cars, why is so concerned about horsepower for the dollar? I guess it had to do with Rob's statement earlier in the thread. People are forgetting about vehicle content and appeal. Cars like the Civic and this new Sentra come with 6 speed gearboxes and LSD's standard. If you want a LSD in a Cobalt its another $1500. I'm not sure what the Sentra's options will include, but the Civic has the option for a navigation system. Believe it or not, some people enjoy redlining 8000rpm torquless motors. Each car offers its own driving experience.
Like I said earlier, most consumers are only going to know what GM tells them about their cars. If I'm cross shopping $20,000 sport compacts, a 200hp Civic, 200hp Sentra and 205hp Cobalt are going to look a lot closer on paper than they compare in real life. A 230hp rated Cobalt for the same price as the other two is definately going to open eyes.
Lastly, when comparing these cars, why is so concerned about horsepower for the dollar? I guess it had to do with Rob's statement earlier in the thread. People are forgetting about vehicle content and appeal. Cars like the Civic and this new Sentra come with 6 speed gearboxes and LSD's standard. If you want a LSD in a Cobalt its another $1500. I'm not sure what the Sentra's options will include, but the Civic has the option for a navigation system. Believe it or not, some people enjoy redlining 8000rpm torquless motors. Each car offers its own driving experience.
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Seeing how Robert is so smart and in the car/Nissan business I thought he would have been able to solve this little riddle. "Why would they underrate hp figures?" Hmmm lets see...... Maybe so they could leave the engine unchanged, but for next model year advertise a higher hp and not be lying. Also they could make the people with the 325hp SS's feel special (but charge them more for the same engine).
haha.... "This sticker says that this G6 has a 6speed manual transmission..... I'm not going to fall for that one.... seeing how they lie about their hp figures, who knows what they'll lie about next" - Robert Nashville
haha.... "This sticker says that this G6 has a 6speed manual transmission..... I'm not going to fall for that one.... seeing how they lie about their hp figures, who knows what they'll lie about next" - Robert Nashville
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