Autocross and Road Racing Technique There is more to life than a straight line

Going to racing school, what should i take?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 26, 2002 | 12:34 PM
  #46  
DomesticViolence's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 232
From: TX
So, does all this "help" get us a "get out of jail free" card?
at least with me it does.
Old Nov 26, 2002 | 04:17 PM
  #47  
2002Z28SSConv's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 1,713
From: Orlando, Florida, USA
You have to be careful with weight transferring back to the unloaded suspension like that. Especially with stock springs, shocks and sway bars. Try to hesitate for a second when the steering wheel is in the 'straight ahead' position. That will lessen the momentum that builds up as it transfers from one side to the other. Easier said than done however. Watch this video.
http://home.cfl.rr.com/sscamaroconv/...cond%20Run.WMV
50 seconds into it, that is what happened to me. The lefts were loaded hard. When I turned back to the left the rear end snapped back around too far. Since I had already blown the run by missing a gate right in front of the camera I just kept my foot in it and put on a little show for the crowd. That's one way to get rid of any flat spots .

As said before, springs and other upgrades should help. Short of that, shocks and sway bar will probably give the most improvement for the least amount of $$$.

My $.02
Old Nov 26, 2002 | 05:06 PM
  #48  
DomesticViolence's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 232
From: TX
Originally posted by 2002Z28SSConv

As said before, springs and other upgrades should help. Short of that, shocks and sway bar will probably give the most improvement for the least amount of $$$.
that's exactly the problem i run into where the tail kicks back around on an S turn.

....but i'm still back to the original problem...it's a police car and i have to justify every penny if i want some kind of addition outside of stock. i begged for the SFCs before those were approved. it's going to be more on me learning how to handle the skidding over adding parts to compensate.
Old Nov 26, 2002 | 09:48 PM
  #49  
94bird's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 727
From: Wolverine Lake, MI
Originally posted by DomesticViolence
....but i'm still back to the original problem...it's a police car and i have to justify every penny if i want some kind of addition outside of stock. i begged for the SFCs before those were approved. it's going to be more on me learning how to handle the skidding over adding parts to compensate.
A good set of shocks would do wonders for you. Hmm, any chance you could have to chase someone down a really rough street and somehow blow out some of your shocks? A little bit of oil put in just the right places on the outside of the shocks could certainly make them look faulty. Hehe.
Old Nov 26, 2002 | 10:02 PM
  #50  
chuck's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 1998
Posts: 906
There are 2 ways to think about this:

1. You could buy the brake pads and/or tires yourself. For the sake of the bumpers of all cars in your run group, please bleed the brakes with good fluid (Ford HD, Motul 5.1) at minimum.

2. If this is really to be a learning exercise, shouldn't you drive the car as it is on the street? Learning it's limits on R compound tires and race brakes sounds like a quick way to learn to overdrive the car on RSA's and stock pads. Still flush the brake fluid.
Old Nov 27, 2002 | 07:33 AM
  #51  
mitchntx's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 1999
Posts: 1,227
From: Texas
Originally posted by chuck


2. If this is really to be a learning exercise, shouldn't you drive the car as it is on the street? Learning it's limits on R compound tires and race brakes sounds like a quick way to learn to overdrive the car on RSA's and stock pads. Still flush the brake fluid.
That's a good point ....
Old Nov 27, 2002 | 06:36 PM
  #52  
DomesticViolence's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 232
From: TX
i will never drive this car as hard as i will next monday. driving on public roads usually warrants a little more caution than a race track.

i'm getting the brake fluid and the pads. i'm stuck with the RSAs.
Old Nov 28, 2002 | 02:21 AM
  #53  
JordonMusser's Avatar
West South Central Moderator / Special Guest
 
Joined: Dec 1998
Posts: 1,650
From: Coppell, TX USA
you guys couldn't drive your way out of a cardboard box!!!!!
Old Nov 28, 2002 | 06:04 AM
  #54  
mitchntx's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 1999
Posts: 1,227
From: Texas
Big talk for someone who's never been to a track with us ...

Bring it JordOn ...
Old Nov 29, 2002 | 10:04 AM
  #55  
DomesticViolence's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 232
From: TX
Originally posted by JordonMusser
you guys couldn't drive your way out of a cardboard box!!!!!
do you honestly think you can get away from me?
Old Nov 29, 2002 | 10:17 AM
  #56  
chuck's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 1998
Posts: 906
Though the question is not directed at me, I will say that I think Jordan could get away from you, and probably even me
Old Nov 29, 2002 | 12:19 PM
  #57  
mitchntx's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 1999
Posts: 1,227
From: Texas
DV...

you ... yes
your radio ... no

I think yer gonna have a hard time keeping up with the Jettas
Old Nov 29, 2002 | 01:17 PM
  #58  
DomesticViolence's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 232
From: TX
Originally posted by mitchntx
DV...

you ... yes
your radio ... no

I think yer gonna have a hard time keeping up with the Jettas
lest you not forget, normal roadways are far different than professionally designed racetracks. so, i still stand by my reply. no, you wouldn't get away from me; even if i had a broken radio. turns are sharper, road bumps are thrown in, etc. on a track, i may be far from top dog, buy i own the streets.

for 12 hours a day i drive the way most people only dream of.
Old Nov 29, 2002 | 08:07 PM
  #59  
mitchntx's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 1999
Posts: 1,227
From: Texas
Much to your chagrin, we all save it for the track, as should you.

Street racing is dangerous and illegal.
Old Nov 29, 2002 | 08:10 PM
  #60  
DomesticViolence's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 232
From: TX


i have some great videos.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:51 PM.