oh yeah!........well lets get on the scale and see whos grinnin!


well im sold.......im gonna see if i can be a beta tester for the kit.

 

Interesting. Not going to be a pretty as the LTCC but might be more stable

 

Interesting to see the name "JC" creep in here..... when I was dealing with the Electromotive O-E/SDI back in the late 90's.... "JC" was the name of the chief engineer a E'motive. I know he has since left there. Is this the same "JC"? He also worked at Hypertech when they were developing the "power programmer" for the LT1.
The "Stage 1" kit appears to continue to rely on the Opti optical sensor:
"The Stage 2" option still uses the Opti housing, but replaces the Mitsubishi optical sensor with a Hall-effect sensor:

 

well just using the opti "shell" is no big deal........as long as the internal are changed.

 

Ok, here' s the obvious post...

If there's a Z28 out there with this system on it and functioning, then lets see some pics! This sounds very interesting to me as well, as I have been seriously considering the LTCC kit and building a custom distributor (essentially a stubby distributor mounted on the back of the manifold - no egr please ). I have been trying to get rid of the opti since the first time I had to replace one. Hate spending that kind of cash on something I KNOW is going to fail..

Dave C.

 

Dave C,

I promise...once I am done watching all the web forums and I shovel the rest of the snow off the driveway, I will take pic's of JC 96 camaro I will try to do it today...

Pete

 

Sweet Thanks in advance...

 

Yes yes yes after replacing 4 optis … I am ready to ditch the opti system please get some pictures out as soon as possible also sign me to get your system …… any discounts for being a test dummy.

Anther question… does this system provide enough spark for a super charger set…?

 

I may be over my head here but since the '93s dont have sequential injection would it matter for us? But if I were to get a FAST system for my car would that change my batchfire to sequential? I am not completely sold on ditching the opti right not for any reason other than to rev higher.

 

Stable?

Also, why do some still believe this replaces/removes the opti?

 

the stage2 kit does remove the opti.........it just uses the plastic shell to house the new sensors.

it does not have any of the same internal parts anymore, and does not rely on anything from the old opti, except for the plastic housing.

 

Hmmm, looks like we have a different description for what constitutes replacement then. The 'shell' still houses the sensor and associated hardware, and from it, the signal to fire plugs, whether it is the oem optical sensor, or with the hall effect, correct? Like the LTCC conversion, the change is in the spark distribution system. Sounds like we both know what is happening, just describing the fate of the opti differently.

Now, for the 'stable' ?.

 

Well, one way or the other, you're still going to need some type of trigger, and optical pickup in the optispark has (for the most part) never been the problem with it. It's always the rotor button and cap. They stink, and there's little to do about it other than remove the dependancy on them. Sure, you could remove the opti altogether, and mount a hall-effect trigger wheel to the crank, but the problem I ran into when looking into doing that was packaging. It's awfully tight down there, and there's very little room to work (not mention all the crap that it'll have to go through on a street car in daily driving..no thanks...).

About the only problem I HAVE seen with the opti as far as the optical pickup goes is the fact that over time it seems like oil leaches (sp?) into the back of the case (very little mind you) through the two locator pins on the backside of the optical pickup, and if I were to go with something like this, I would just go ahead and tear the thing apart, cut the rotor off (leave the base of course), and put some sealer on the backside of the sensor mount. I think that would essentially seal the thing up for good (as well as epoxy in the plug lead holes and the vacuum holes too).

I've gotten a couple pics of this setup from the makers, and I think I'm going to give it a shot. Since I know I'm going to need a pretty serious ignition system, this looks like a pretty good alternative so far. Only time (and cash of course) will tell...

Dave C.

 

Arnie I know a few people using the LTCC and that is where the more 'stable' coment came from..I will leave it at that

OH yeah if you replace some thing with a totaly different operation most do say that is an 'Elimination'

I hope this clears things up for you

Two things will make up my mind on this.

First. Reliability. I live in the greater Seattle area and water intrusion and corosion are ALWAYS a problem. This and a High voltage MSD seem to kill my opti every 12k or so.

Second. Looks. I want a clean sanitery stock apperance. Sure I may be packing a big bore stroker with a sheet metal intake BUT I want it to look like the factory put it there not Mutt and Jeff in the shed

My ONLY Problem on this system is the coil packs will be in the way unless I can find room to put them behind the motor on the fire wall.

I do have a new question that may be very easy to answer? Will this system adapt to alternate fireing orders easily?

Later all!

 

I've seen a couple of stock Mitsubishi optical sensors blinded by rust, coming from the stock carbon steel bearing retainer. And, the stock bearing is not a high quality item. I'm all for using only the optical sensor from the Opti... my setup has been running for 4 years like that..... but I think you need to be accurate when you describe the process..... the Opti has not been "eliminated" in either Stage 1 or Stage 2..... it has been "upgraded".

Semantics.... but accuracy is important if a product is to have credibility.