fabricating longer runner LT1 intake manifold
Re: fabricating longer runner LT1 intake manifold
Originally Posted by Gripenfelter
I just spoke with the guy that did Denny's manifold. He said I should look into modding the stocker. He said I would pick up some power and torque in the midrange with a sheet metal but I could pick up the same amount by reworking the stock LT1 intake by cutting it in half and welding, porting, etc. and it would be cheaper.
Still think the right cam will pick the top end up. Again, we'll see but I sure see a lot of longer intake runners on cars running a whole lot more rpm so something is going on that makes them pretty fast.
Craig @ GTP was doing the stock intake cut and weld stuff 8 years ago and a friend bought one. He had problems making power when I saw the car but claimed to have gotten it into the 480's in a 383 with AFR 227 heads and a big solid roller cam. Haven't seen any dyno sheets to substantiate his results and we all know how that stuff goes.
Re: fabricating longer runner LT1 intake manifold
I dont see a stock manifold maxed out making more AVERAGE power than that sheetmetal or ANY longer(than stock) runner manifold..aint happening.
Pops and I had a buddy here in town, a 383, Holley stealthram(was not cutdown), Pops grind solid roller cam, monoblade throttlebody, 42 lb injectors,stock casting LT1 heads, 1 7/8 headers, 3 inch dual exhaust and a FAST system. At 3350lbs it ran 10.40's on motor, was never tuned to get the best out of it, easily had a low, low 10 second slip in it.....but he changed direction with the car.......I think his stealthram made that engine....but hey thats just me.
David
Pops and I had a buddy here in town, a 383, Holley stealthram(was not cutdown), Pops grind solid roller cam, monoblade throttlebody, 42 lb injectors,stock casting LT1 heads, 1 7/8 headers, 3 inch dual exhaust and a FAST system. At 3350lbs it ran 10.40's on motor, was never tuned to get the best out of it, easily had a low, low 10 second slip in it.....but he changed direction with the car.......I think his stealthram made that engine....but hey thats just me.
David
Last edited by FASTFATBOY; Aug 16, 2006 at 01:37 PM.
Re: fabricating longer runner LT1 intake manifold
Originally Posted by Z-RATED94
longer intake runners and there benefit, I'd like to mention the one-off BRE ProRam has been listed in the for sale section today. 

Did you evere get to run it?What did you make for power?
How much longer are the runners on that than stock?
Re: fabricating longer runner LT1 intake manifold
Well I just started looking through my GMHP Sept 2006 catalog and saw that Edelbrock makes a Performer RPM LT-1/LT-4 TB Intake for our cars #7107 LT-1 & #7109 LT-4 but I can't find it on thier site??
Re: fabricating longer runner LT1 intake manifold
Originally Posted by 383TransAm
Well I just started looking through my GMHP Sept 2006 catalog and saw that Edelbrock makes a Performer RPM LT-1/LT-4 TB Intake for our cars #7107 LT-1 & #7109 LT-4 but I can't find it on thier site??
Originally Posted by faust
"this is the e-mail responce i got
Michael,
At this time we do not have a lot of details available regarding that product. This is disappointing since you and many other customers have been beating down our doors since it was announced. It is still in development but we expect it to be available for sale in a month or two. I do not have a projected MSRP or any technical specs available to me. Having thoroughly failed to answer any of your questions, I would like to thank you for your interest in Edelbrock products. Let me know if you have any other questions that I will be unable to answer.
Sincerely,
Aaron Jones
ajones@edelbrock.com
Michael,
At this time we do not have a lot of details available regarding that product. This is disappointing since you and many other customers have been beating down our doors since it was announced. It is still in development but we expect it to be available for sale in a month or two. I do not have a projected MSRP or any technical specs available to me. Having thoroughly failed to answer any of your questions, I would like to thank you for your interest in Edelbrock products. Let me know if you have any other questions that I will be unable to answer.
Sincerely,
Aaron Jones
ajones@edelbrock.com
Re: fabricating longer runner LT1 intake manifold
I only know of one LT1 with a different intake, it was made by Hogan. Its on a 391 with AFR heads. On the motor, pump gas, race weight with driver at around 4200lbs it traps 122mph. Thats around 600hp to the rear wheels based on weight and trap speed. I'm thinking that the intake becomes a restriction at some point, but where? With all the LE and AI stuff running around putting down 400hp+ to the rear wheels it looks to be in that area.
BTW Check here for intake pic again: http://memimage.cardomain.com/member...07_20_full.jpg
BTW Check here for intake pic again: http://memimage.cardomain.com/member...07_20_full.jpg
Last edited by gex598; Aug 16, 2006 at 07:18 PM.
Re: fabricating longer runner LT1 intake manifold
Originally Posted by gex598
I only know of one LT1 with a different intake, it was made by Hogan. Its on a 391 with AFR heads. On the motor, pump gas, race weight with driver at around 4200lbs it traps 122mph. Thats around 600hp to the rear wheels based on weight and trap speed. I'm thinking that the intake becomes a restriction at some point, but where? With all the LE and AI stuff running around putting down 400hp+ to the rear wheels it looks to be in that area.
BTW Check here for intake pic again: http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...07_20_full.jpg
BTW Check here for intake pic again: http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...07_20_full.jpg
Re: fabricating longer runner LT1 intake manifold
Originally Posted by gex598
4200lbs it traps 122mph. Thats around 600hp to the rear wheels based on weight and trap speed.
Mike
Re: fabricating longer runner LT1 intake manifold
All the calculator I've pluged MPH and weight into give me around 600 at the rear wheels and anywhere from 700-750 at the crank. Remeber its a b-body at 4200lb!
Re: fabricating longer runner LT1 intake manifold
122 mph at 4200 lb is not 750 fwhp.
I ran 133 mph at 3750 lb. Do the same math and you get 680 hp. The car made 550 rwhp in this trim, nowhere near the 680 hp that's calculated.
Right now, I run 143 mph at the same 3750 lb. The same equations yield 850 hp. Once again, I'm nowhere near 850 rwhp. The car now makes 680 rwhp.
I ran 133 mph at 3750 lb. Do the same math and you get 680 hp. The car made 550 rwhp in this trim, nowhere near the 680 hp that's calculated.
Right now, I run 143 mph at the same 3750 lb. The same equations yield 850 hp. Once again, I'm nowhere near 850 rwhp. The car now makes 680 rwhp.
Re: fabricating longer runner LT1 intake manifold
Originally Posted by 383TransAm
Denny did you retain the MAP sensor on that Fabed Intake and did they keep it in the stock location?
and was pretty stressed trying to figure it out until my partner just pluged it into a hose.
So simple it's pathetic.
Re: fabricating longer runner LT1 intake manifold
Thanks Denny 
Been on vacation since last friday
I know this is likie advanced notice but I have the Popular Hot Rodding for October and it has a very large article on Head flow and Intake flow.
Very long and indepth.

Been on vacation since last friday

I know this is likie advanced notice but I have the Popular Hot Rodding for October and it has a very large article on Head flow and Intake flow.
Very long and indepth.
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