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Old Jan 29, 2003 | 07:17 PM
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dual runners inatke manifold read!

Check out this advanced intake design thats in a jdm (japanese domestic market) midsubishi engine (link below). It has 2 runners per cylnder. The longer and smaller diamiter ones are always open and increase trque because of the high air velocity at low rpms. Then the shorter and fatter runners open once under turbo boost (~3000 rpms). This gets the high volumes of air movng easily for hi rmp power. I dont know if it worked flawlesley but in theory it would work perfect at getting more torque and hp (always good). And if you can put in on one engine what stops you from puting a system simmilar to this on a diffrent intake (tpi would be a perfect starting point). For a n/a motor you would wire it into your ecu or somehow so its reads your rpms and actuates the shorter runners valves to open up at high rmp.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...401061820&rd=1

Also ive been thinking would it work if you have a duel plentum manifold and have a large butterfly valve that opens at high rpms and allows air to go from one plentum to another. this would give you hi rpm power like with a single plane but torque and throtle resposnse of duel plane at low rpms.
Old Jan 29, 2003 | 08:03 PM
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The 32V Yamaha V8 that ford used in the late 90's Taurus SHOs had the same dual-runner intake. The few I rode in had amazingly flat power curves too, so apparently it does work as advertised.
Old Jan 29, 2003 | 09:43 PM
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Have you ever seen the LT5 engines used in the ZR-1 Corvettes? The engine was designed by GM and Lotus I believe. It had dual runners to each cylinder as well as over head cams. Pretty interesting stuff.
Old Jan 30, 2003 | 12:45 AM
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yes the ZR1 had duel runners per cylnder (one per valve) that not so special but looks good. Im taling about 2 runners to one common head port interchanging from one to another for torque and hp increase.
Old Jan 30, 2003 | 01:24 AM
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From my Corvette FI manual:

Dual Intake Runners (ZR-1)

Long intake runners are better at lower RPM, and short runners help at higher RPM; so why not use both. The ZR-1 does just that, with entry controlled by the engine computer through throttle-plate-type valves.

At lower RPM's, using only the longer intake runners, each air column takes longer to bounce, or resonate, between the surge tank and the intake valve. The slower ram effect is timed to the slower rate of intake-valve opening.

As engine RPM increases, the computer may add the shorter manifold runners, so both sets of runners are open. In power mode, the eight secondary port throttles can open to a seperate set of shorter runners, which change the tuning to match higher RPM, above 4,000.
Is there an echo in here....?
Old Jan 30, 2003 | 05:22 PM
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The 32 valve 4.6L Cobra motor has dual runners, as does the Integra B18 going back at least as far as '94.

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