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Old Feb 9, 2004 | 05:57 AM
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Well we're in Texas down here dammit! We can do almost anything just look at Enron. Seriously though we may actually make some of our own stuff too since no one else is doing it right now. We'll just see where we go with all of this stuff I guess. I'm sure Chuck will check into the name though just to be sure!
Old Feb 9, 2004 | 10:15 AM
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Hey, if the shop and what I know is not professional and legitimate for you then maybe I should act more like Mark and....... well not going there, don't want a kick a guy in the *****. You get my point.
And here I thought the lack of an immediate response from you meant that you understood that I was just making a point and weren't going to try to escalate...

Personally, I don't care what you say about the situation with Mark, me, or my engine. If anyone can benefit by not being screwed in the future by Mark Montalvo (or anyone else) after reading my story, then I've done this forum a service. It's not an isolated incident, even for Mark, and I see more and more people coming forward with their stories about how companies and vendors screwed them over. Good service and honesty is the exception to the rule these days, not the norm. It's not my fault that Mark turned out to be the norm, so you're not going to get a rise out of me with that cheap shot. Nice try, though.

And now back to our regularly scheduled programming...
Old Feb 9, 2004 | 10:32 AM
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Well we're in Texas down here dammit! We can do almost anything just look at Enron. Seriously though we may actually make some of our own stuff too since no one else is doing it right now. We'll just see where we go with all of this stuff I guess. I'm sure Chuck will check into the name though just to be sure!
I lived in Houston for 8 years. I never bothered to register in TX, because they required what amounted to a minute-by-minute history of every project you ever worked on as part of the application process. Then they would return the 50 pages of BS to you, unaccepted, because they found a spelling error..... maybe it was part of the "good ol' boy" thing.... keep the Yankees out . The procedure did not involve an examination, as long as you could prove you took one in another state that offered reciprocity with TX.

My employer at the time (Houston-based) would not allow anyone to use the word "Engineer" on their business card unless they had a license from one of the states.

I did pass a warning on to a friend in PA who was using the title "Xxxxxxx Performance Engineering". He checked PA state law, and found out that my info was correct, and shortened the name to "Xxxxxxx Performance".

Some interesting thoughts.....

-"Operating Engineers" are allowed to use that title, although they are basically "heavy equipment operators".

-Elevator operators in some states are allowed to call themselves "engineers"... and of course we all know the guys that drive the trains....

-My wife considers herself a "Domestic Engineer".....

But I digress......
Old Apr 30, 2004 | 09:53 AM
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Here is an update on my 383.

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...hreadid=256400

Jim
Old Feb 10, 2005 | 09:55 AM
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Re: Building a pretty wild stroker... opinions needed

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Thank you OldStroker!

Me and Chuck and HPE are going to try and bring some glory back to the poor old LTx people! They've had sand kicked in their faces long enough!
WORD BRUTHA!!! I kicked a lil sand 04' to sting the eyes.This year I'll kick enough to make them think they are at a beach, not a dragstrip... PS. I'm no engineer either, but good mechanical fundamentals can go a long way...LOL

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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Joes94TA
WORD BRUTHA!!! I kicked a lil sand 04' to sting the eyes.This year I'll kick enough to make them think they are at a beach, not a dragstrip... PS. I'm no engineer either, but good mechanical fundamentals can go a long way...LOL
It's funny that post was made by Erik so long ago. It's kind of ironic to look back now huh? You plan on running LS1tech this year? I didn't really read all the threads in the sponsor section, but noticed they were not being very accommodating to your suggestions...

We're going 7's this year with our LT1. Time to take out Ronnie Duke and the Hardcore crew!

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Chuck
Old Feb 10, 2005 | 10:31 AM
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We will see how mighty the LSx's are when they are limited 370 CI
Old Feb 10, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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It's funny that post was made by Erik so long ago. It's kind of ironic to look back now huh? You plan on running LS1tech this year? I didn't really read all the threads in the sponsor section, but noticed they were not being very accommodating to your suggestions...

We're going 7's this year with our LT1. Time to take out Ronnie Duke and the Hardcore crew!

Later,
Chuck

Rick and you guys surely will do it...yeah I will prolly run a couple races ls1tech will put on...but purely to **** psj and nineball off if nothing else...My main focus is running PRO this year since they accomodate all makes pretty much and though the rules are not perfect they are more level in my eyes...As far as the rules for ls1tech well lets just say if you read any of the posts in the sponsor forum there is no love for the lt1 and was actually said in so many words that the lt1 had the advantage,kinda funny actually..
Old Feb 10, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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Rick and you guys surely will do it...yeah I will prolly run a couple races ls1tech will put on...but purely to **** psj and nineball off if nothing else...My main focus is running PRO this year since they accomodate all makes pretty much and though the rules are not perfect they are more level in my eyes...As far as the rules for ls1tech well lets just say if you read any of the posts in the sponsor forum there is no love for the lt1 and was actually said in so many words that the lt1 had the advantage,kinda funny actually..
Yeah I know, that's actually the impression I got, and I was like what the crap!? It's really funny those guys are truly scared of LT1's. They think there's something about those 23 degree heads and reverse cooling that seems to make them faster than the LS1's! LOL

Don't get me wrong though, my shop works primarily on LS1 cars with only the occasional LT1. So I'm not ******* on LS1's at all, in fact don't tell anyone, but I'm putting one in my 97 SS It's just funny to see those guys get all squirmy over an LT1. I just want to say, no they are not better. That's just what happens when you have someone build a motor who actually know's what they're doing. Think of what could be done with an LS1... seriously. We've tried it and have had dry sump problems, and valvetrain problems. So we never really got anywhere with it, and are too busy to mess around with it. But I've got a set of LS6 heads here that flow 370-380 cfm and a 14:1 shortblock that I know would probably go 8's n/a if we ever got it working right. Most of those guys simply don't know what it takes to go fast like you n/a. They think it's VOODOO! And LT1's have magical powers!

Good luck to everybody in 2005.

Steve, Rick was telling me yesterday the Futral 346 car went a 9.9x with a 6 speed. Not tooo shabby. I think 370 is still plenty of cubic inch's for someone to go pretty fast with. What class are they limiting them to 370 ci?

Later,
Chuck

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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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Yeah I know, that's actually the impression I got, and I was like what the crap!? It's really funny those guys are truly scared of LT1's. They think there's something about those 23 degree heads and reverse cooling that seems to make them faster than the LS1's! LOL

Don't get me wrong though, my shop works primarily on LS1 cars with only the occasional LT1. So I'm not ******* on LS1's at all, in fact don't tell anyone, but I'm putting one in my 97 SS It's just funny to see those guys get all squirmy over an LT1. I just want to say, no they are not better. That's just what happens when you have someone build a motor who actually know's what they're doing. Think of what could be done with an LS1... seriously. We've tried it and have had dry sump problems, and valvetrain problems. So we never really got anywhere with it, and are too busy to mess around with it. But I've got a set of LS6 heads here that flow 370-380 cfm and a 15:1 shortblock that I know would probably go 8's n/a if we ever got it working right. Most of those guys simply don't know what it takes to go fast like you n/a. They think it's VOODOO! And LT1's have magical powers!

Good luck to everybody in 2005.

Steve, Rick was telling me yesterday the Futral 346 car went a 9.9x with a 6 speed. Not tooo shabby. I think 370 is still plenty of cubic inch's for someone to go pretty fast with. What class are they limiting them to 370 ci?

Later,
Chuck
Oh I agree 100% I too have seen the potential of what a properly setup ls1 can do even on a hyd cam/head level so there is no mistake that the ls1 is hardly "done" so to speak, atleast as far as what we've seen one do to this point...I think Steves comment nails it though I think theres to much bigger is better going on as far as cubic inches, moreso stroke within the ls1 ranks.(Even if he was throwing bricks with the comment LOL) ..even I pretty much know I could build a smaller ci engine and run just as fast.Ecspecially when talking weight to cubic inch....my new bullet in fact is smaller than my old setup
Old Feb 10, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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Its impressive how fast Allan went but personal best and race day performance are 2 different stories, as the DA was way negative on that day. Super stock is limited by 370 ci
Old Feb 10, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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Joe I was talking about the big cube NA ls1 cars, as there are very few 400 and less CI NA 9 second ls1 cars out there.
Old Feb 10, 2005 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by squinn
Its impressive how fast Allan went but personal best and race day performance are 2 different stories, as the DA was way negative on that day. Super stock is limited by 370 ci
Yeah we saw that 9.9X! That was impressive but you're right the air was unbelievable!
Old Feb 10, 2005 | 07:38 PM
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Joe I was talking about the big cube NA ls1 cars, as there are very few 400 and less CI NA 9 second ls1 cars out there.

Steve oh I agree with you...I read what you posted the way you intended the first time by the way just want you to know I've always respected you as a competitor and a person and to be honest ls1's never had me worried last year ,I was more worried bout that 370 ci lt1 ..Goodluck this year and keep in touch from time to time...
Old Mar 1, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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Turning the microscope on you, Bret, someone might say the same thing you're accusing Chuck of applies to "Bauer Racing Engines". Do you or your father have professional racing experience using your own engines? Do you have customers who race professionally with your engines? Do they win? Someone could just as easily say you were trying to make a profit from an implied association with professional racing to sell your services when you have no experience or customer history to prove that your engines do, indeed, win actual races.
Just the facts Jack, jimlab is my hero



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