What's the deal with the 3rd Gen?
#31
Hell I've never been taken by a 4 banger and yes I've munched on a few Talon TSI's and other 4 cylinder stuff. Once the mods start though the bets are off. Its easy to see how stoplight to stoplight a stock L98 can take a stock LT1, but real racing is done on a timed track of 1/8th or more where the LT1 has time to run down the L98. A lightly modded L98 should be capable of taking a stock LT1. As to which I prefer I like my 3rd gen but I'd love to and will eventually own a 4th gen. I guess it depends on what I find as to which power plant LT1 or LS1 but I love them both and I will keep the 3rd gen.
Last edited by 92BLKL98; 11-30-2003 at 01:40 AM.
#32
On the whole L98 vs LT1 thing, it really boils down to 3 key factors:
1. Driver. Face it, not all of us are Evan Smith.
2. Condition of vehicle. Not every car is in perfect condition, some have been ragged to **** and back. Anyone could take a ragged to hell POS.
3. Original equipment. A well equipped L98(or even G92 LB9) has a shot at taking out an LT1, but it also has to do with what kind of LT1. An A4 2.73 car is slow, put one of these up against an L98 A4 3.23 car and it's a tossup. It comes down to race length, and the other 2 conditions.
Now, take a well drivin 97 1LE M6 Z28, no power anything, and a great driver and race an A4 2.73 L98 with a 16 year old newbie who can't drive, and it's pretty cut and dry. Now reverse that, an A4 2.73 94 Z28 vs a 3.23 G92/1LE L98 91-92, or even a G92/1LE 91-92 LB9 5 speed, with a killer driver, and the results change. It really boils down to these three factors, stock for stock. Adding mods just modifies these, that's all. These are the three major factors in determining the winner.
1. Driver. Face it, not all of us are Evan Smith.
2. Condition of vehicle. Not every car is in perfect condition, some have been ragged to **** and back. Anyone could take a ragged to hell POS.
3. Original equipment. A well equipped L98(or even G92 LB9) has a shot at taking out an LT1, but it also has to do with what kind of LT1. An A4 2.73 car is slow, put one of these up against an L98 A4 3.23 car and it's a tossup. It comes down to race length, and the other 2 conditions.
Now, take a well drivin 97 1LE M6 Z28, no power anything, and a great driver and race an A4 2.73 L98 with a 16 year old newbie who can't drive, and it's pretty cut and dry. Now reverse that, an A4 2.73 94 Z28 vs a 3.23 G92/1LE L98 91-92, or even a G92/1LE 91-92 LB9 5 speed, with a killer driver, and the results change. It really boils down to these three factors, stock for stock. Adding mods just modifies these, that's all. These are the three major factors in determining the winner.
#34
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Originally posted by Pro
Cant we all.... just.... get along....
I wonder if the Mustang dudes beotch about their 5.0 vs 4.6 this much.
Cant we all.... just.... get along....
I wonder if the Mustang dudes beotch about their 5.0 vs 4.6 this much.
#35
Originally posted by BigCasino87GTA
hehe, I doubt they do. Funny thing is, you talk to 3rd gen guys about 4th gens, and they like 'em and that's that. talk to alot of 4th gen guys about 3rd gens, and alot of 'em start throwin insults. wtf is that? we're all F-Bodies in then end, that makes as much sense as us tossin comments at 2nd gens, it's stupid.
hehe, I doubt they do. Funny thing is, you talk to 3rd gen guys about 4th gens, and they like 'em and that's that. talk to alot of 4th gen guys about 3rd gens, and alot of 'em start throwin insults. wtf is that? we're all F-Bodies in then end, that makes as much sense as us tossin comments at 2nd gens, it's stupid.
#36
Originally posted by unvc92camarors
does it have B2L?
that was supposed to be the g92 for the 5.7 i thought, and the g92 was for the 305's
i might be wrong though, so
but if i'm right, you could have a 305 and not know it, or it could be a swapped in 350
o well, it's still a fast car right?
does it have B2L?
that was supposed to be the g92 for the 5.7 i thought, and the g92 was for the 305's
i might be wrong though, so
but if i'm right, you could have a 305 and not know it, or it could be a swapped in 350
o well, it's still a fast car right?
No, the engine is a 350. I have the original list of RPO codes for my car right in front off me. Here is the list, in order.
AC3 PWR SEAT ADJ
AJ3 SUP RESTRAINT
AM9 SPLIT REAR SE
AR9 STD BKT SEAT
AU3 ELEC DOOR LOC
A01 TINTED GLASS
A31 PWR WINDOW
A90 PWR DECK
B18 CUSTOM INTERI
B34 FRT FLOOR MAT
B35 RR FLOOR MAT
B84 BODY SIDE MLD
10Q WHITE
CD4 WASHER SYSTEM
C49 ELEC RR DEFOG
C60 A/C
DC4 MIRROE I/S
DE1 SUNSHADE
DG7 ELEC O/S MIRROR
D34 VISOR MIRROR
D42 CVR RR COMPT
D81 SPOILER
FE2 SUS SPL PERF
GU5 3.23 RATIO
G80 POSITRACTION
G92 PERF RATIO AX
J65 4 WHL DISC BR
KC4 COOLING SYSTE
K34 CRUISE CONTRO
K68 105 AMP GEN
L98 5.7L F/INJ
MD8 4 SPD AUTO TR
NA5 STD EMMISION
NP5 LEATHER S/WHL
N10 DUAL CONVERT
N33 STEERING COLU
N64 SPARE WHEEL
N96 CAST ALUM WHL
40P WHITE
QLC 245/50ZR16BW
TT4 HALOGEN LAMPS
T96 FOG LAMPS
UB4 CLUSTER-INST
UN6 AM FM ST ETRG
UQ1 RADIO-PROV
U25 COMP LAMP
U26 LAMP
U79 EXT RANGE SPE
VK3 FRT LIC MNT
Z28
Z03 25TH ANNIVERS
Sorry for the long a$$ list, just wanted to clear a few things up.
Last edited by mako350Z28; 11-30-2003 at 07:32 AM.
#41
Originally posted by BigCasino87GTA
hehe, I doubt they do. Funny thing is, you talk to 3rd gen guys about 4th gens, and they like 'em and that's that. talk to alot of 4th gen guys about 3rd gens, and alot of 'em start throwin insults. wtf is that? we're all F-Bodies in then end, that makes as much sense as us tossin comments at 2nd gens, it's stupid.
hehe, I doubt they do. Funny thing is, you talk to 3rd gen guys about 4th gens, and they like 'em and that's that. talk to alot of 4th gen guys about 3rd gens, and alot of 'em start throwin insults. wtf is that? we're all F-Bodies in then end, that makes as much sense as us tossin comments at 2nd gens, it's stupid.
I've had two 3rd gens(84 Z28 HO 5spd and 89 TTA) and one 4th gen(96 WS6 6spd). Which do I like the best? Toss up, each has there strong points and weak points. The WS6 was probably the best all around, everyday, quality built car. Followed closely by the TA. The camaro was a brutal riding car but extremely fun. They all handled about the same but the camaro lagged behind because of the 15" wheels.
Could go on but the 3rd and 4th are so closely related, its just a matter of styling that really sets them apart. From the firewall back, they are the same car.
#43
I must appologize. That was not the complete list of RPO codes that I listed before. I will not list the remaining codes, but according to the list in the rear compartment, my car lists the G92 and the B2L. Could I get some clarification on what exectly was the G92 and the B2L beyond what the RPO decoder says?
What gears, cams, ect...?
What gears, cams, ect...?
Last edited by mako350Z28; 11-30-2003 at 05:17 PM.
#44
Originally posted by Pro
Cant we all.... just.... get along....
I wonder if the Mustang dudes beotch about their 5.0 vs 4.6 this much.
Cant we all.... just.... get along....
I wonder if the Mustang dudes beotch about their 5.0 vs 4.6 this much.
#45
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Originally posted by 92BLKL98
Definitely yes. My son is the misguided prodigal who chose the Mustang over the F-body, he has the 95 GT and will swear the 5.0 is tops and stoplight to stoplight he is probably right. It's a known fact the 4.6 needs a lot of RPM for power.
Definitely yes. My son is the misguided prodigal who chose the Mustang over the F-body, he has the 95 GT and will swear the 5.0 is tops and stoplight to stoplight he is probably right. It's a known fact the 4.6 needs a lot of RPM for power.
But I would in no way drive a 94 or newer. They are just too friggin ugly for me.
Ill take a 93 Cobra. After that, a 91 or 92 GT (gata love the two tone).