Screw it I guess I'll wait till cobras come down.

 

Why? It amazes me how some people can already hate something they know absolutely nothing about. No one has driven the new IRS system to see how it responds. It is amazing how resistant people can be to change. Kind of like when fuel injection was the new up and coming technology....

It will be really interesting to see how some peoples' responses will change once we have the opportunity to experience the drive and feel of the IRS.

 

why would you assume that a car that has production numbers kept artificially low would come down in price? If you want a solid axle that badly, why not buy a Mustang GT. You may even get a good deal and its a cool car.

Here is an 11 second Commodore with rear IRS I posted a while back for anyone who missed it

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...ight=commodore

 

Mustang will probably be IRS by that time too.

 

true, but two things

1 if he wanted one that badly he could get a Mustang with one now from the factory.

2 if all the cars go IRS and I think that is a good thing. I am willing to bet aftermarket will have kits to swap in a solid rear for drag racing and maybe more milder set ups for people who want them. They already have full drag rear kits with suspension and solid rears now for the classic cars.

 

well, there's lots of 11 sec. Fbody's with stock rear axles. but how long will it hold is the question. did you pay attention to that car goin down the track? or just look at the time at the end. that car is all over that track, and thats not even that fast of a car. ofcourse hopefully the aftermarket will come to the rescue and fix the il-handleing stock suspension, and if the stock axles will put up with mid 11's Id be satisfied with that I guess.


and about the mustake's, Ford did it right by making the GT's solid axles, and the cobra's IRS. so you could make your own choice. thats all Im asking for. Im not saying you people shouldnt have IRS. Im only hoping that I can have solid rear axle, and not have to shell out large amounts of cash AFTER buying the car. then Id be in the same boat Im in now. where the hell am I goin to come up with $2500 for an aftermarket rear axle and Dshaft to match? its just alot harder to afford that way. thats all.

 

Personally I am looking forward to the IRS. I will be using this car as a daily driver, and I bet I will be able to count on one hand how many times I end up making it to the track. Persoanlly, I would rather have a car built to handle what I will use it for 95% of the time rather than a car built to handle what I will use it for 5% of the time.

I think it would be kind of cool though if GM could try and appeal to both sides by making a drag racer option. There seem to be a lot of people on here that would want a striped down solid rear axle car. If there is a great enough demand for it, then why not make a limited number of them....

 

thats how the car got so popular soo many years ago in the sixties. relativly cheap car that you could easily make go fast. thats what it should be today also in order for it to be more then just a cool car. if people can personalize it the way they want it, then it'll be easier to sell. IMO. but make it higher priced, and no options (ie GTO) and it'll only sell limited quantities.

however if it only comes with IRS that wont make me go away.

 

...Or let a solid axle coexist with an IRS option (a la SN95 Mustang) on higher performance package models (also including IMO, a V6 variant).

While this would require more R&D money, couldn't the case be made for both lower price point(s) as well as a wider market appeal.

 

They arent doing that anymore. The Shelby's axle is solid as well as the GT's. Is your rear on your 4th gen stock?

 

unfortunatly except for the gears and girdle. yup. as I said I cant justify/afford $2500 for a rear end at the moment. so no nitrous for me yet.

 

The Shelby's don't hook in the corners plus the're nose heavy. The disadvantage is the cars are tested on the streets of Detriot. They have a habit of making them to soft and mushy..
The progressive springs will help the camaro in cornering plus the bigger wheel and tire package is going after the "road race" market. The comment on 95 percent on the street 5 percent strip is how GM is looking at it. You don't take that big of a wheel to the drag strip and get it to bite like a 17inch wheel... plus you have 15inch brakes to work around

 

very true. that'll be hard to get a good tire under there for a drag application. hmmm.

 

It seems on one of the threads that most people are thinking more Road race applications. That seems to be GM's focus, where Ford is going straight line. I want to go door to door with one of the Parnelli Jones cars on one of the big tracks. The Camaro should have much better manners than the GT500 thus making it much easier and faster to drive. I think the foundation with the IRS will be there to build a great car from. I want to show the Blue oval guys it doesn't take a Vette to show them the way around a track. But to take the new cars Drag racing we'll just have to wait and see how well they work

 

I prefer to begin with IRS.. and I'll tell you why.

Chevy uses ****ty rearends in their cars.. so if you do decide to get serious.. you have to buy a $2500 aftermarket rearend setup anyways.. Well with an IRS car.. you would have to buy... a solid rearend aftermarket setup.. with a few extra things needed to install.. not a big deal. Not much more than you need to do with any serious racer.

For the average person IRS would be better for handling, and daily driving. It also will be fine for the average performance enthusiast in a drag racing environment who only wants to run 10's-11's in their daily driver.

For the person who has to cut 1.20's-1.40's.. they will likely have an all aftermarket modified rearend/suspension setup to begin with. Simple as that.

You don't see many solid axle cars with custom IRS setup's installed, simply because its not feasible.. it takes alot of work ot make an irs setup work well.. and there's alot of money involved.

Peace
Josh