More than one V8 in the first year?

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01-10-2008, 08:59 AM

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Dragoneye

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Originally Posted by STOCK1SC

The 5.3 is used in Chevy Silverados and has been for years. Aluminum and iron block versions with AFM.

What?!

Wow.....I have no idea how I missed that one.

That was dumb - sorry.

Though, I still can't see those being used.

They've got les power than the 2002's...

01-10-2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rampant

So, for majority (as I see it) V6 buyer, things like looks, fuel economy, interior quality and practicality are tops--if not the entire--list to compare cars. The hp won't be an issue, as long as it is close to the competition (250-275hp will be more than enough).

Now, the "want a V8" guys will want as much hp as possible, but I don't think that is a large population. Of course, there are those that fall into this category, but how many in the grand scheme of things?

The Mustang V6 is no barn-burner. Heck, it has 58 less hp than a Camry or Accord and is an awful sporty car (severely underdamped/floaty suspension, poor gearing, no power, etc.), yet it sells well because it hits all the important areas (for the V6 buyer) well.

I think that the v6 buyers who wish they were getting a v8 also include those who’s parents or spouse won’t let them get a v8 because a v8 is too powerful, and/or expensive and/or not green enough.

I think that this demographic might be the business case for a 2nd v6. If the Camaro has a faster v6 than Ford & Mopar while beating the G37, 135i, et al. soundly on price then GM should be able to score a huge share of this segment of the v6 buying demo. I assuming, of course, that this demo really is big enough to bother with.

02-15-2008, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by al 96 Ram Air T/A

GM will price the Camaro to make money...not to make us happy. They are in the business for the business. If they price a 435 hp, LS3 based Camaro at $42K, they'll still sell as fast as $1 condoms at a **** festival.

Just simple math...

Did your simple math show you , that you can buy a Corvette w/ the LS3 for that price? A base vette is around 41k....So exactly who would buy a Camaro over a vette.....

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02-15-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GMRULZ

Did your simple math show you , that you can buy a Corvette w/ the LS3 for that price? A base vette is around 41k....So exactly who would buy a Camaro over a vette.....

Actually the base Vette coupe is closer to $47k. A quick check of dealers in my area only two base vettes were priced under $50k. On average they were around $53k.

However, the point is the Camaro will sell. The LS3 Camaro will be priced close to a similarly equipped Mustang, which will probably be around $31k, not $41k.

02-17-2008, 08:51 PM

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Actually the base Vette coupe is closer to $47k. A quick check of dealers in my area only two base vettes were priced under $50k. On average they were around $53k.

However, the point is the Camaro will sell. The LS3 Camaro will be priced close to a similarly equipped Mustang, which will probably be around $31k, not $41k.

I bought mine new for 42.5k included z51 package and up cost paint. MSRP was 47,900. The current base is 46,950.00 Considering I got mine5,400 off msrp ordered just like i wanted it from the factory using Rick from Les Stanford Chevy who is a corvette forum supporting dealer. Lets say I got Rick to get an 09 for me at the same time the camaro is available in 09. I should be able to get a base for 41,450.00. There will be no discounts on the Camaro. So I ask again who wouldn`t buy the vette at 41k as the other poster suggested might be the cost of the camaro. Now at 31k as you suggest there are a lot of people who would choose the Camaro over the vette. I personally want both. I have the vette 6sp manual z51 for the twisties already, my new camaro will have an auto, big stall for drag racing.

02-18-2008, 12:37 PM

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Agreed I would like to have both but when it came down to it I think the Vette is gonna be the car. The days of a 3200lb factory Camaro are over and even if the Camaro gets 500hp it's still not gonna perform better than a 430hp Vette that's at least 500lb's lighter. Not that I would ever try it but 190mph top speed is pretty impressive compared to 155-160 on the Camaro. You can find a "Base" Corvette which will outrun and outhandle the baddest Camaro coming out for $40k without looking too hard. Heck the GT500 is going for $46-$50k starting price and it can't outrun or outhandle an LS2 Vette. I think the days of these cars however is numbered so get whatever you can now because there's no telling what the Dems are gonna propose when they win this November.