My clock is still waiting to be cleaned. By the way, I don't have a stake in the new Camaro except for the stake any fan might have in their favorite auto. Don't get me wrong, I want to like the new Camaro and I have given a number of suggestions.

M

 

dude, from the point of view of someone looking in on this thread other than yourself, your clock has been cleaned a looooong time ago. take some of the logical advice others have given and either give better reasonings or take the little dignity you have left (if you even have any left) and stop this nonsense.

 

Well it's your lucky day!!

You don't like it....thats fine. You'd rather get a Challenger....great! Your opinions don't hold up here.....oh well.

Welcome aboard!

 

Why are people so harse on others that don't agree with them? I don't understand that mentality at all. So the guy doesn't like the Camaro in it's present form. So what, big deal. Why slam him for his opinion?

 

I think it's natural for people to attempt to try to quiet others who espouse views that are contradictory to their own. It doesn't bother me though. It tells me I hit a nerve. I think what I've said has caused many to rethink their opinion of the Camaro concept. I'm hoping Chevy changes the Camaro before going to market. If there's enough of an uproar, they just might. That's my goal because I am a huge Camaro fan.

M

 

I don't think so, I think your arguments supporting your opinion are just...shall we say, unique to you. You didn't strike a nerve, it's just that nobody agrees with you . If you actually presented an argument that turned a light on for anyone, then you would have accomplished something, but all you did was stir the pot. To most people that equals Troll. It's fine that you don't like it, but the vast majority does, and it will get built. Hopefully some day it will grow on you, and do yourself a favor and see it in person. It has SUCH a different character in person, it has a beauty that just isn't there in pictures.

 

right now i don't think it has much to do with disagreeing with him on the new camaro concept.. its statements like having 85% of poll responders giving an 8-10 to the concept is a bad thing.. as fbodfather said.. he obviously has no experience in customer focus groups or opinion polls..

it doesnt bother me when people say they don't like the Camaro concept, what bothers me is when they say that the Camaro will fail unless the car is changed to fit their opinion..

when people act like their opinion is the only one that matters, as mh12345 has done, then it kinda gets to me

 

He is allowed to think it sucks. That is fine. What is annoying to me is how insistent he is that the 5th gen will be a failure, just because he does not like it. None of his arguements for his point have held much water, and his only response is how "crappy" an 80% approval rating is.

I wish GM didn't go retro(or heritage or whatever you want to call it) on the 5th gen, but what is done is done. The car is still going to sell well, regardless.

*edit - damn FS3800, beat me to it.

 

Yeah, as a matter of fact I do remember the first time.

I was driving in my '78 Z28 behind what I thought was a Geo Storm (anybody else remember those??) until I got close enough to see that it was a Camaro !! Talk about being unimpressed! After that I was referrring to them as a "Geo Storm on Steroids". Shortly after that, I was so underwhelmed by the look, that I ended up buying a '92 Z28 when I was fortunate enough to get divorced and was finally able to buy myself a "new" car.

A few years later, after putting a good amount of miles on, it it was time to get another "new" car. I would have preffered a 4th Gen T/A or Formula (still thought the 4th Gen Camaros were plain looking), but I found a GREAT deal on a used 95 Z28 which I fell in love with after taking it on a test drive. In 2003 I got a 01 SS.

I still prefer the look of a 3rd Gen over the 4th. I was never a huge fan of the 4th Gen Camaro's body with the exception of the SS (probably because the scoop reminds me so much of the scoop on my '78 Z). Even though, I still owned 2 of them and thought they were both great cars (especially the SS ). If money was no object, I'd still owm both of them.

Yeah, it took a while for the look of the 4th Gen to grow on me, but the power, handling, & "feel" was something that I had to have. Point is, just because someone isn't in love with the look of the 5th Gen (but I am! ), doesn't necessarily mean that they want nothing to do with it.
..............at first!!

 

by a whole 4 minutes, i'm surprised you didn't see my post

 

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