Some thoughts on the pictures........
Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........
All I have to say is that these pictures truely made my Christmas brighter!
We've heard the rumors, we've had the "confirmations" from automotive magazines, to finally see something from GM that is hardcore PROOF (even if it's a clay model) is the best feeling in the world after waiting so many years.
Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........
Originally Posted by RussStang
Well Red, my impression of the car is that even though it does bear quite a resemblance to a 69, it is not a completely retro car in the same fashion that the Mustang and Challenger are. It does have new facets to it which I like. For example, I think the taillights are pretty cool. Overall, I think the car is pretty nice, and I am one of the guys who was against complete retro. I don't really see that much 2nd, 3rd, or 4th gen in it though, unless you really nitpick it. I thought you mentioned the car would have alittle bit of every generation. Perhaps the real car at NAIAS will be a good bit different from this one (although obviously the overall shape is going to be the same.)

In fact, I reckon it's every bit a modern car with heritage design cues.
Although the car was a non-finished design analysis, it did look good in proportion and stance. It's got an angry look to it that somehow the Mustang lacks although I'm also a fan of the Ford.
I thank Red for commenting on the pictures as I didn't expect such a mature reply to indicate what impact a leak of that nature does to the team who worked so hard to give the enthusiast what they want.
Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........
My 2 cents... (maybe 2½)
It sucks that the leak ever happened, and I sure hope the people involved have dirty pants right now.
But now that it's pretty much out in the open...
Overall, I love it. The shape is stout and mean, and it just seeps muscle.
I love the 1st Gen, and that probably has alot to do with why I like it.
But I do like the fact that there are enough new things on it so it's not just a photocopy.
I like the cleanliness of the drivers side front, yet I think I like the passenger front more because it's a little more agressive. Put the circular fog light on it and it's a winner I think. Really liking the grille with few lines, although I agree it needs an updated Camaro badge rather than a simple bowtie. I actually mocked-up a new 1968-meets-1993 Camaro Badge a few weeks ago that I think would look fantastic in the middle of that grille (and on the tail panel for that matter): http://www.camarohighway.com/Files/5thGenNose1.gif
The rear end definitely needs a spoiler of some sort, which I would think the real concept will have. Tail lights are very interesting. Very different, but I kinda like them, I see 1968 Camaro in them. I like the shape of the rear, looks mean without looking huge.
The side is a little hard to adress yet. The top crease might look better if it was coming off the top of the front fender well, however, I do like how it blends in with the nose.
But the best thing is... it SCREAMS Camaro.
Overall, I'm very impressed. I'd say we've got a winner here.
Really really really really looking forward to NAIAS!!!
The countdown: http://www.camarohighway.com/Countdown.htm
It sucks that the leak ever happened, and I sure hope the people involved have dirty pants right now.
But now that it's pretty much out in the open...
Overall, I love it. The shape is stout and mean, and it just seeps muscle.
I love the 1st Gen, and that probably has alot to do with why I like it.
But I do like the fact that there are enough new things on it so it's not just a photocopy.
I like the cleanliness of the drivers side front, yet I think I like the passenger front more because it's a little more agressive. Put the circular fog light on it and it's a winner I think. Really liking the grille with few lines, although I agree it needs an updated Camaro badge rather than a simple bowtie. I actually mocked-up a new 1968-meets-1993 Camaro Badge a few weeks ago that I think would look fantastic in the middle of that grille (and on the tail panel for that matter): http://www.camarohighway.com/Files/5thGenNose1.gif
The rear end definitely needs a spoiler of some sort, which I would think the real concept will have. Tail lights are very interesting. Very different, but I kinda like them, I see 1968 Camaro in them. I like the shape of the rear, looks mean without looking huge.
The side is a little hard to adress yet. The top crease might look better if it was coming off the top of the front fender well, however, I do like how it blends in with the nose.
But the best thing is... it SCREAMS Camaro.

Overall, I'm very impressed. I'd say we've got a winner here.

Really really really really looking forward to NAIAS!!!

The countdown: http://www.camarohighway.com/Countdown.htm
Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........
wow, cant wait to see the revised version of this car in january, i like it alot! count me in to order one if it looks similar to this. now the only thing is, hurry up and get it out so we can all buy one
Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........
I wanted to make a post asking someone, anyone, to Please, PLEASE email me the pics, but then I realized how wrong that would be.
I guess I'll just have to wait.
cschill@hotmail.com
I guess I'll just have to wait.
cschill@hotmail.com
Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........
Originally Posted by guesswhoo
The rearend is AWFULL!
The rest is pretty nice.
I am shocked, Noone has yet mentioned the drawings of the suspension...
The exhaust is interesting.
The rest is pretty nice.
I am shocked, Noone has yet mentioned the drawings of the suspension...
The exhaust is interesting.
Yup, not even one teeny bit of Sigma there.
Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........
First off, have to say I love the car! If the clay can look this good, I can't wait to see it done in sheetmeatal (and have both sides match
). I guess my excitement on this car is best summed up this way; it reminds me of getting my first ride in a 1986 IROC at the dealership. In fact, the feeling is so strong, I went and bought the same album that I was playing back in 1986 when that happened (gotta love Ozzy). The psychological impact of seeing that car, even in concept form, brought me back to that place we all have, that realization that I HAVE to own one of these. While I am sure that you all would really have preferred to have the concept's first glimpse be amongst the grandeur and lights of NAIAS, the visceral impact of this car, on me, is quite profound.
Now having said that, you asked for feedback, so here it goes:
Stance: Perfect, looks mean , ready to pounce (Panthers eat horses don't they ?
)
Front bumper area: I prefer the left side overall, like the fog lights and the lss dramatic grade of the bumper line, but I do prefer the down turned chin spoiler, as opposed to the left sides more "straight" look.
Hood: slightly more pronounced cowl bulge would be good, or the hood scoop of the 4th gen SS, I like the how the hood line seems to meet the top of the front 1/4's. Very muscular and taught.
Side Mirrors: Neat concept look, would prefer 3rd gen look to them.
Door Panels: Interesting character lines, not sure about the air duct area, if they are functional would be one thing. Honestly, it is hard to tell without seeing this area in person, or at least in a color that allows some depth to the picture.
Greenhouse: Looks damn good to me, looks more upright, while not looking to pedestrian.
Wheels: Awesome, love this new look. Reminds me of the BMW and SRT-8 type wheels. That is a VERY good thing, IMO.
Back: Ok, maybe I am in the minority, but I REALLY like this new look. Passenger side lights look much better than driver side to me, they are proportionally much better sized for the overall look of the rear. Two areas of suggestion here:
1) Put a spoiler on the bad boy! either a Duck Tail or IMO a spoiler lik the GTO has, but with the upturned lip ala 4th gen SS.
2) I would prefer that the exhaust tips do NOT go through the rear valance panel. It limits the customization possibilities of the "Car"
Interior: Like the console guages, would look cool if they and the center stack were positioned to make the driver's area more "cockpit" like. the Tack, speedo area I am not fond of, would prefer the semi-circular look.
Back seat: please make it a bench, would make it far more usable , especially for carrying stuff.
Ok, that's my take, for what it's worth. Can't wait to see the finished product at NASIAS, and in my Dealer's showroom . Please pass along our collective request to fast track the car, don't let the momentum get watered down, the Solstice was good at 21 months, let's make the Camaro even better at 18 mos. ?
Thanks again for all invloved's hard work. This truly looks to be the best Camaro ever.
James
). I guess my excitement on this car is best summed up this way; it reminds me of getting my first ride in a 1986 IROC at the dealership. In fact, the feeling is so strong, I went and bought the same album that I was playing back in 1986 when that happened (gotta love Ozzy). The psychological impact of seeing that car, even in concept form, brought me back to that place we all have, that realization that I HAVE to own one of these. While I am sure that you all would really have preferred to have the concept's first glimpse be amongst the grandeur and lights of NAIAS, the visceral impact of this car, on me, is quite profound. Now having said that, you asked for feedback, so here it goes:
Stance: Perfect, looks mean , ready to pounce (Panthers eat horses don't they ?
)Front bumper area: I prefer the left side overall, like the fog lights and the lss dramatic grade of the bumper line, but I do prefer the down turned chin spoiler, as opposed to the left sides more "straight" look.
Hood: slightly more pronounced cowl bulge would be good, or the hood scoop of the 4th gen SS, I like the how the hood line seems to meet the top of the front 1/4's. Very muscular and taught.
Side Mirrors: Neat concept look, would prefer 3rd gen look to them.
Door Panels: Interesting character lines, not sure about the air duct area, if they are functional would be one thing. Honestly, it is hard to tell without seeing this area in person, or at least in a color that allows some depth to the picture.
Greenhouse: Looks damn good to me, looks more upright, while not looking to pedestrian.
Wheels: Awesome, love this new look. Reminds me of the BMW and SRT-8 type wheels. That is a VERY good thing, IMO.
Back: Ok, maybe I am in the minority, but I REALLY like this new look. Passenger side lights look much better than driver side to me, they are proportionally much better sized for the overall look of the rear. Two areas of suggestion here:
1) Put a spoiler on the bad boy! either a Duck Tail or IMO a spoiler lik the GTO has, but with the upturned lip ala 4th gen SS.
2) I would prefer that the exhaust tips do NOT go through the rear valance panel. It limits the customization possibilities of the "Car"
Interior: Like the console guages, would look cool if they and the center stack were positioned to make the driver's area more "cockpit" like. the Tack, speedo area I am not fond of, would prefer the semi-circular look.
Back seat: please make it a bench, would make it far more usable , especially for carrying stuff.
Ok, that's my take, for what it's worth. Can't wait to see the finished product at NASIAS, and in my Dealer's showroom . Please pass along our collective request to fast track the car, don't let the momentum get watered down, the Solstice was good at 21 months, let's make the Camaro even better at 18 mos. ?
Thanks again for all invloved's hard work. This truly looks to be the best Camaro ever.
James


