Well, I screwed up and what I actually saw wasn't it...so I'm still in the dark. If anyone has them saved....

 

[QUOTE=Katahdin]I think it looks great, also that it looks similar to the rendition that johnnygmachine did.

It looks very similar to about 100 other 1gen inspired concepts that have been around, and that's the problem.

 

It was said in the original ls1tech thread that johnnygmachine was at the same design clinic that the clay model was shown at; I don't know how much rumor or truth that is though.

 

I'm off the site for a few hours and I miss the pics. Darn it!!
Could someone please send them to me in a PM or e-mail them to me at HuJass@msn.com .

Thanks.

 

lol I missed it!!!!

is the car similar to the post I made about the hemmings muscle machines article?

http://64.65.63.61/forums/showthread.php?t=413298



and uhhh, if someone would be kind enough to email the pics to zigroid1985@hotmail.com
if not id understand

 

For those that haven't seen the pics....they are on the net, and for better or for worse, there's no way GM can contain them all. It's neat getting a chance to see the pics, though I totally understand GM not wanting them to get out.

That said....go search the Mustang sites.

 

One aspect of the pix that NOBODY has commented upon is that it appears to be a "true" hardtop. I know, things can change, that was only a clay, BUT the Challenger sure looks like a hardtop also! Maybe this is a new design direction. Its certainly possible, just "harder". The end result sure makes it worth it though.

If so, I say, about time! I commented on here several months ago that I would like to see a hardtop roof, and was told I was out of my mind in so many words by just about everybody. If they can really do it, that is sweet.

So much for that.

Red, just thank you, thank you, thank you. That car is the Camaro I've been waiting for since '92. I go a long ways back with F's, but the 4th gen never did it for me. This one does. In a way that the Mustang and Challenger don't. Even the criticisms here are nitnoids. This is FINALLY the home run GM has been craving and needing.

Just don't make us wait 3 years to get it. If Wagoner had 1/4 of a clue, he would call the whole Camaro team into his office and tell them, you have 1 year to have this thing in full rate production. Whatever you need is yours. Whatever/whoever is standing in your way will be removed. If you make it, you are rich beyond your wildest dreams, if you fail, you are looking for a job. Its a simple thing, really.

 

Well we definitely have something we can work with. Looks like a big seller coming. I'm with the 1st gen twin-bar taillight idea. Unlike some I don't feel the rear is too high, in fact I think it's downright stylish. The rear 1/4s are beautiful don't change them, like the Mercedes SL500 just like I said before. The front of the car looks slightly high but I don't know what can be done about that considering the engines that will go into it. I'm going to wait until I see the concept before I make the rest of my suggestions. I'm glad you didn't go replicar-retro like Daimler-Chrysler did. There's a lot there that is new and that's good.

I think the car will be met with great applause. Good job.

 

Ok, I like it. I know the production version won't be an exact replica, but I hope it smacks me in the face like this one did.

 

Scott (Fbodfather) Please, Please, Please, Please, Please, Please (Did I say please?) make the car with enough head and leg room for people over 6' 5". Most sport cars are built for smaller people but there are plenty of tall people who very much enjoy the sports cars too. My Camaro is a little tight fitting for me, but I compromise fit for form for now. If i can comfortably fit (and shift) in new Camaro, then that is one more sold unit when the car comes out.

Respectfully,
Brian

 

So was this the Clay Model they showed at the design clinic about a year ago??? Or is this something alittle closer???

I would think 3-4 weeks away from the NAIAS they would have the design nailed to one or the other (or a mix) not a 1/2 / 1/2 cut?

I think I'm liking the Drivers side better, but cannot tell without seeing that "side" of the car. Front = cool. Back = cool. Admit tailights are different, but that's NEVER a bad thing. Different = good most of the time. Dual Exhaust is freaking awesome, about damn time.

The Interior sketches you can't even comment on as that's all they are. I'm impressed and excited about seeing the finished product come January.

Now give me a blown LS2 in the Top Z28 model and I'm gonna have to start putting back. I like that over a C5 (what I /was/ looking at buying)...

!!! !!!

 

Three things I really need:
1. Camaro ribbon back
2. Spoiler of any sort(as long as it isn't a whale tail )
3. It to be big enough my 6'8 self can sit in it and if I want to, row through the gears.

Three things that would be nice but not essential:
1. T-tops
2. Less Retro interior
3. More rounded tail lights

Other than that, I really like how it looks. If GM can come through with this, I may be picking up a Solstice and a new Camaro in a few years.

 

You know it's funny you mention this, my '68 has more legroom than any other car I have had since my dad's old 1970 Chrysler Newport. I mean, there's elbow room and room to move around. I know the point of a good sports car is that it holds you firmly in place while you throw around on the twisties, but I think the 4th gen took it too far. This is not a vette, it's a 2+2 and has to be slightly liveable.

 

I was absolutely passionate about the f-body and am still with the 'Vette.

The more time I spent here, the more I envisioned a retro, overweight, numb, new Camaro. Looks like the first part is coming true!

I like the sharp lines and creases. Everything else is totally unimaginative and screams first gen. This looked just like any other retro concept I've seen a thousand times over the years. I surely hope the real interior and especially gauge cluster resemble nothing like what was pictured.

Hopefully the driving dynamics have more soul than the styling. I've been getting the feeling that this car will be more liveable than fun so I also don't have high hopes there.

In short, this is Chevy's Mustang which is what I expected and loath. I'm sure GM would love for it to sell like a 'Stang. I still have this glimmer of hope that GM will be a leader, not a follower.

Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. Maybe I've lost the faith. Maybe I've just outgrown the f-body and need a 'Vette Maybe Toyota will enter the pony car market with something different than the domestics

 

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