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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 01:39 AM
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Finally got a chance to watch the videos. That car sounds simply wicked. Well done!
Old Apr 2, 2009 | 06:53 AM
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I think the Diesel idea is great!! It would open up a whole new area of the market for the Camaro, and that is want GM needs. It would be different to pull up next to one of those!
Old Apr 2, 2009 | 11:01 AM
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Of all the alternatives out there to boost fuel economy and decrease our dependence on imported oil, next to CNG diesel IMO is the best, most easily done with the most minimal investment.

Although diesels don't come close in horsepower to similar gasoline engines (most vehicles today have artificially low top speed governers anyway), they tend to have more torque (acceleration and "pull").

I think this engine as an option in a Camaro (especially since it's going into Commodores & Luminas...and probably Statesmans and Caprices as well), I don't see a reason why it couldn't or shouldn't go into Camaros as well.

Only 2 issues.

First, refineries and oil companies here in the US almost seem to be discouraging production of diesel (high prices compared to gas, relatively low production amounts).

Second, pollution standards that seem set to doom it here in the US outside of trucks.
Old Apr 2, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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For a while the price of diesel around here was about the same as gasoline
Old Apr 2, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by guionM
Of all the alternatives out there to boost fuel economy and decrease our dependence on imported oil, next to CNG diesel IMO is the best, most easily done with the most minimal investment. Biodiesel

Although diesels don't come close in horsepower to similar gasoline engines (most vehicles today have artificially low top speed governers anyway), they tend to have more torque (acceleration and "pull").

I think this engine as an option in a Camaro (especially since it's going into Commodores & Luminas...and probably Statesmans and Caprices as well), I don't see a reason why it couldn't or shouldn't go into Camaros as well.

Only 2 issues.

First, refineries and oil companies here in the US almost seem to be discouraging production of diesel (high prices compared to gas, relatively low production amounts). Within $0.10 between the two around here. As for production. Are you including all the Diesel Tractor/trailers, Construction Equipment, Light Cars/Trucks, Farm tractors?

Second, pollution standards that seem set to doom it here in the US outside of trucks.
Agreed. However, the adaptation of the DPF filter additional to the Catalytic converter has significantly improved the emmisions of diesel engines. That along with the common rail DI, VVT turbochargers, and 4 valve heads. These thing run clean.

I believe Diesels, depending on vehicle class also need to meet similar Strict CAFE standards as gasoline.

I hope a someone from GM reads this and at least designs a prototype Diesel Camaro. Like a concept car. Then show everybody what it's capable of. Which is what I am doing.


Thanks for all the compliments guys!
Cody

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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 08:34 PM
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I think around here there is a $0.10 difference, easily made up by the higher mpg. About 6 months ago, it was about 2x more expensive though.
Old Apr 2, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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....... Put it in the Malibu..... that would be sweet. Then GM could go after those Europeans who think there diesels are the green cars for tommorow.
Old Apr 3, 2009 | 07:19 AM
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....... Put it in the Malibu..... that would be sweet. Then GM could go after those Europeans who think there diesels are the green cars for tommorow.
I doubt the Malibu's transaxle can hold >400ft-lbs.

But they do sell Ecotec diesels in Europe that should fit.
Old Apr 3, 2009 | 11:01 AM
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I'm feeling inspired. I now know what my next project car will be. (After I finish the two I already have.) I'm going to purchase a early 1970's Camaro or Firebird and drop in a mid 90s GM truck turbo diesel drivetrain then convert it over to biodiesel. It will be a few years before I get it done, but I hope to have it all planned out in advance. (It'll be my mid-life crisis/retirement project. )
Old Apr 3, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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i dont know if this was a repost or not but i was looking in one of my car mags, (automobile,car&driver ?) but there was a test in there of a new audi a4 sedan v. bmw 3 series sedan diesel. it was pretty amazing the horsepower and especailly the torque gains, that diesel had overthe gas motor. they said something like, the torque was at 80% of full potential through majority of the rpm's. it has some pretty promising power. i wouldnt not be opposed to some sort of a diesel alternatice, if it had power like i saw from this bmw3 series. i think it was over 400 ft lb tq. and diesel isnt as loud as they used to be. they are a lot quieter.
Old Apr 3, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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Not a Camaro, but check this "biodiesel" conversion out:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto/1105369002.html
Old Apr 3, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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ive seen those conversion on "TRUCKS" on powerblock. but they made their own veggie oil diesel gas. they converted a truck to run on veggie oil but then they converted the oil into some tye of "gas" for the truck. pretty cool stuff.
Old Apr 10, 2009 | 12:14 AM
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Update

Update:

Car is STILL running top notch, adjusted shift points, max RPM, added some timing and tried some B20 Biodiesel. Less smoke, more power, and the smell of French Fries. MmmmMmm....

1320 coming soon.


Cody
Old Apr 10, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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First of all I am new to this board. I was looking around for the release date for the new Camaro and stumbled into the tread. So please don't hate me for what I am going to say.

A new Camaro with the 4.9 Duramax would be killer. The sound of a turbo spooling up in a modern muscle car like the Camaro would unlike anything heard today. I am a diesel convert. Having a been around them with my dad who is a professional truck driver and having friends with them, I cannot understand people that don't love them.

I can only see positives from a diesel Camaro. Why not have the power of a
V8 with the economy of a V6? Hell, there will be tuner kits for these cars that could make even more power and still get great mileage. I mean really gas is on the way out and diesel will step up.

By the way there is a Furd Crapstang that is running a 6.6 Duramax that will run 9 and maybe even 8's while getting 30+ mpg. How cool is that?
Old Apr 11, 2009 | 03:10 AM
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welcome to the board tbarnhart!

I agree, a 2010 Camaro with the 4.5L Duramax would be wicked!

And the Mustang with the D-max, that car is suprising ALOT of people. This is what I intend to do.

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