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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 10:29 PM
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It's about time for a Camaro turbo diesel...

2.9L. 250 hp. 406 ft/lbs.




Why? Because Camaro can then contribute to GM's CAFE efforts. And that's a good thing for Camaro. Plus, it'll be very ballsy.

Eh, what do I know - afterall, I'm not a "Camaro enthusiast".
Old Jan 31, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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hmmm...I doubt Camaro would be the first vehicle that a diesel gets put into, as it's not a "high volume" vehicle. But given time....I can totally see this happening - and I would (if I were in the market) definitely consider one! heehee, 400 ft/lbs and 35+mpg....(drool)

And, c'mon man - can you drop the whole 'not an enthusiast' thing, now? I mean, I understand what your getting at, but please let it go?

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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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Charlie...great minds think alike!!

I was just thinking...370ftlbs? What could make 370ftlbs in a V6?
A detuned for America 2.9 diesel engine. It is confirmed that Commodore will be getting one, so would and could this be helpful for Camaro as well as GM? Could this reopen the Zeta files, allowing them to sell more of these vehicles here in the US?
Old Jan 31, 2008 | 11:09 PM
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Charlie...great minds think alike!!

I was just thinking...370ftlbs? What could make 370ftlbs in a V6?
A detuned for America 2.9 diesel engine. It is confirmed that Commodore will be getting one, so would and could this be helpful for Camaro as well as GM? Could this reopen the Zeta files, allowing them to sell more of these vehicles here in the US?
The thing is, cost. You'd probably need to pony up afew G's over a gas engine.

But, I'd bet you could get an EPA rating of over 30 mpg in a Camaro. And it would be hoot to drive.
Old Jan 31, 2008 | 11:22 PM
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True, but how much more? And how great would this make the Camaro a great catch over seats if and when they introduce these to Europe and Australian markets?
Old Feb 1, 2008 | 12:17 AM
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True, but how much more?
I don't know, sounds like at least a couple of grand, maybe even 4 or 5 - I'd guess.

But GM would need to stimulate that end of the market somehow. As long as gas is 3 or 4 bucks per gallon, I think it might be hard sell. GM might need/want to subsidize it.

We don't yet know what the interim CAFE requirements would be. It will certainly be afew more MPG in the next few years than it is now. Having a Camaro that can get 33 or so mpg would be helpful.
Old Feb 1, 2008 | 12:30 AM
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I think it is a great interim step while the US gets her energy priorities and policies straightened out. Would that run Bio- Diesel? No reason muscle cars shouldn't be part of the solution. Fast is fast (though I admit I would miss the roar of a large displacement gasoline V-8).
Old Feb 1, 2008 | 07:30 AM
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Forward thinking? Yes. Smart? Maybe. OK Yes.

Do I want a diesel Camaro?

No. And I'm betting that the average Joe buyer PROBABLY doesnt want one either.
Old Feb 1, 2008 | 09:02 AM
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He definitely doesn't want one that gets good mileage either.

The average, speaking in terms of majority, person does not care the mileage, as long as it is fast.
Old Feb 1, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
2.9L. 250 hp. 406 ft/lbs.




Why? Because Camaro can then contribute to GM's CAFE efforts. And that's a good thing for Camaro. Plus, it'll be very ballsy.

Eh, what do I know - afterall, I'm not a "Camaro enthusiast".
One thing you and I agree on!!! A performance diesel option should be offered! especially outside the US. you can get just about any car over there in a diesel! Im thinking a smaller version of the duramax would be insane! 400hp and 600ft/lbs of TQ!?!
Old Feb 1, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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I think its a great Idea! this would give me a reason to own two camaros one for play and one for a daily driver. The new diesels that come out are much more refined than the ones in the old days. They dont stink so bad, they arent as loud, and they can beat the pants off of any hybrid. Both my parents traded in their chevy comunter cars to get VW diesels cause they get 45 mpg and i also have a chevy truck with a diesel! i would love to see it come with a diesel and get 30+ MPG
Old Feb 1, 2008 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 91Z28350
I think it is a great interim step while the US gets her energy priorities and policies straightened out. Would that run Bio- Diesel? No reason muscle cars shouldn't be part of the solution. Fast is fast (though I admit I would miss the roar of a large displacement gasoline V-8).
I'm sort of thinking that CAFE credits from stuff llike this, would keep the gas V8 viable, longer, in the Camaro line up.
Old Feb 1, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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Actually I'd seriously consider a twin-turbo 4.5L diesel V8.
Old Feb 1, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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i agree Charlie.. i think that engine would be a good option.. though many "enthusiests" would gawk at a diesel camaro.. i think its a great idea
Old Feb 1, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
I'm sort of thinking that CAFE credits from stuff llike this, would keep the gas V8 viable, longer, in the Camaro line up.

I can definitely see that, though I would like to see long term comitment to an alternative fuel v-8.



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