It's about time for a Camaro turbo diesel...
I don't think it has been posted, but let's not forget that diesel costs about 60-70 cents more per gallon than regular, from what I have seen. The performance is good, and the gas milage would be better, but would it be enough to overcome the huge premium for the cost of the fuel?
Although I don't think it is a bad idea, the 5th gen is likely going to be heavy enough without a diesel. This hypothetical diesel could easily push the car past two tons, with way more weight on the nose then there should be. And with only 250hp, if the car weighs two tons, it isn't going to be skimming 13s at all.
250hp and 400+ ft-lbs of torque. 
I'm thinking a smaller v6 diesel would do alright with DOHC. SOmewhere int he 3-3.4L range.
Too bad it takes a year or two for development of engines like that though.

I'm thinking a smaller v6 diesel would do alright with DOHC. SOmewhere int he 3-3.4L range.
Too bad it takes a year or two for development of engines like that though.
I am damn sure it is heavier though. In a car that is already likely to be more portly than many on here would appreciate. Besides, everyone can talk about 400lb-ft of torque all they want, with 250hp that diesel is likely to be much slower than the rumored v6 car. In an even heavier package.
If GM can do it and development costs are minimal, then sure, why not. Someone will buy them. I am just lost on the benefits of this engine in a performance car.
If GM can do it and development costs are minimal, then sure, why not. Someone will buy them. I am just lost on the benefits of this engine in a performance car.
Expensive, yes. I bet in 20 years all things internal combustion engine will be expensive though.
call it an epic thread from the dead, or whatever you want.
I think it is about time for a turbo diesel Camaro. The idea of gobs of torque, great fuel mileage, reliability, among others and just in general something different. It's no coincidence that Europe has a large diesel vehicle market, especially with $5.00/gal+ fuel prices.
Well I built one.
The car started as a base model Southern 1994 Camaro V6, 4L60E, drum rear brakes, power nothing, and 114,000 miles. Then stuffed a 6.5L V8 turbo diesel engine and 4L80E trans from a 1994 Chevrolet Truck. Rear mounted turbocharger, external wastegate, fuel cell are just a few attributes.
here are some pics and a couple short vids. Enjoy! Edit:havin' trouble loading pics
Cody
Vids...
Idle/Walkaround
http://s648.photobucket.com/albums/u...t=MOV01216.flv
Fly-by
http://s648.photobucket.com/albums/u...t=MOV01332.flv
I think it is about time for a turbo diesel Camaro. The idea of gobs of torque, great fuel mileage, reliability, among others and just in general something different. It's no coincidence that Europe has a large diesel vehicle market, especially with $5.00/gal+ fuel prices.
Well I built one.
The car started as a base model Southern 1994 Camaro V6, 4L60E, drum rear brakes, power nothing, and 114,000 miles. Then stuffed a 6.5L V8 turbo diesel engine and 4L80E trans from a 1994 Chevrolet Truck. Rear mounted turbocharger, external wastegate, fuel cell are just a few attributes.
here are some pics and a couple short vids. Enjoy! Edit:havin' trouble loading pics
Cody
Vids...
Idle/Walkaround
http://s648.photobucket.com/albums/u...t=MOV01216.flv
Fly-by
http://s648.photobucket.com/albums/u...t=MOV01332.flv
Last edited by Rafedial1; Mar 29, 2009 at 11:09 AM.
call it an epic thread from the dead, or whatever you want.
I think it is about time for a turbo diesel Camaro. The idea of gobs of torque, great fuel mileage, reliability, among others and just in general something different. It's no coincidence that Europe has a large diesel vehicle market, especially with $5.00/gal+ fuel prices.
Well I built one.
The car started as a base model Southern 1994 Camaro V6, 4L60E, drum rear brakes, power nothing, and 114,000 miles. Then stuffed a 1994 6.5L turbo diesel engine and 4L80E trans from a 1994 Chevrolet Truck. Rear mounted turbocharger, external wastegate, fuel cell are just a few attributes.
here are some pics and a couple short vids. Enjoy! Edit:havin' trouble loading pics
Cody
Vids...
Idle/Walkaround
http://s648.photobucket.com/albums/u...t=MOV01216.flv
Fly-by
http://s648.photobucket.com/albums/u...t=MOV01332.flv
I think it is about time for a turbo diesel Camaro. The idea of gobs of torque, great fuel mileage, reliability, among others and just in general something different. It's no coincidence that Europe has a large diesel vehicle market, especially with $5.00/gal+ fuel prices.
Well I built one.
The car started as a base model Southern 1994 Camaro V6, 4L60E, drum rear brakes, power nothing, and 114,000 miles. Then stuffed a 1994 6.5L turbo diesel engine and 4L80E trans from a 1994 Chevrolet Truck. Rear mounted turbocharger, external wastegate, fuel cell are just a few attributes.
here are some pics and a couple short vids. Enjoy! Edit:havin' trouble loading pics
Cody
Vids...
Idle/Walkaround
http://s648.photobucket.com/albums/u...t=MOV01216.flv
Fly-by
http://s648.photobucket.com/albums/u...t=MOV01332.flv
Wow!
I can't agree but each to their own opinions.
I heard a V6 Camaro the other day with the driver giving it some stick... it didn't sound too good to my ears.
Granted, the V6 Camaro is what will make up the bulk of production numbers but it's the V8 that makes the car what it is.
I'm not so sure about the idea of 4 cyl turbos or diesels being made available to Camaro. It's a bit like saying we'll make a car for all types... but I'm not convinced that the 'all types' will buy it.
A diesel engined Camaro isn't something I'd like to hear drive past me. But that's just me.
I heard a V6 Camaro the other day with the driver giving it some stick... it didn't sound too good to my ears.
Granted, the V6 Camaro is what will make up the bulk of production numbers but it's the V8 that makes the car what it is.
I'm not so sure about the idea of 4 cyl turbos or diesels being made available to Camaro. It's a bit like saying we'll make a car for all types... but I'm not convinced that the 'all types' will buy it.
A diesel engined Camaro isn't something I'd like to hear drive past me. But that's just me.
what? you don't like the sound of a turbo spooling up?
The 4.5L turbo diesel would be an awesome engine for the Camaro. If/when that engine finally hits production, it will be one of the most technologically advanced engines available. DOHC, direct injection, compressed graphite block, turbo mounted between the heads, etc. The Camaro's chassis should be strong enough to stand up to 520ft-lbs since there is a pretty good chance the engineers were expecting the LSA to make its way under the hood eventually. Sure, it will be heavier than an aluminum block engine, but it should still be capable of getting over 30miles per gallon while being capable of running 13s off the showroom floor.
The 4.5L turbo diesel would be an awesome engine for the Camaro. If/when that engine finally hits production, it will be one of the most technologically advanced engines available. DOHC, direct injection, compressed graphite block, turbo mounted between the heads, etc. The Camaro's chassis should be strong enough to stand up to 520ft-lbs since there is a pretty good chance the engineers were expecting the LSA to make its way under the hood eventually. Sure, it will be heavier than an aluminum block engine, but it should still be capable of getting over 30miles per gallon while being capable of running 13s off the showroom floor.
what? you don't like the sound of a turbo spooling up?
The 4.5L turbo diesel would be an awesome engine for the Camaro. If/when that engine finally hits production, it will be one of the most technologically advanced engines available. DOHC, direct injection, compressed graphite block, turbo mounted between the heads, etc. The Camaro's chassis should be strong enough to stand up to 520ft-lbs since there is a pretty good chance the engineers were expecting the LSA to make its way under the hood eventually. Sure, it will be heavier than an aluminum block engine, but it should still be capable of getting over 30miles per gallon while being capable of running 13s off the showroom floor.
The 4.5L turbo diesel would be an awesome engine for the Camaro. If/when that engine finally hits production, it will be one of the most technologically advanced engines available. DOHC, direct injection, compressed graphite block, turbo mounted between the heads, etc. The Camaro's chassis should be strong enough to stand up to 520ft-lbs since there is a pretty good chance the engineers were expecting the LSA to make its way under the hood eventually. Sure, it will be heavier than an aluminum block engine, but it should still be capable of getting over 30miles per gallon while being capable of running 13s off the showroom floor.
I just think the current GM V8s do the job expected for what is ultimately a performance coupe. A DI injected V8 would be an even better alternative, IMO.

Anyway, if GM decide the diesel engine is worth its entry price, then I'd like to see them go the 4.5L V8 option. But I keep asking myself why diesel in a Camaro?
hm....diesel camaro. My friend has an 09 chevy dually that is diesel and it is a beast. My concern with these newer diesels though are the exhaust filters. That is the only problem that he has had with his truck. Otherwise, the concept seems pretty neat to me


